ANNO 1701 website update 15. Sept. 2006

[Betty]

The Mill is clattering by the babbling brook…

In the Island world of ANNO there is again work to do: while the Citizens have recently also started cultivating Grain, a genuine Captain pays a visit.

http://www.anno1701.com/launch/index.php?lg=en&l1=home&l2=news&l3=13

[Ravell]

Hi BaldJim, nice to see you again :cheers:

I think a thousand dollars will do it to play this 'wonderful' game.

But 'wonderful' is not enough reason, the more i read about 1701 the more i'm sure it will NOT have the 'gamedepth' of 1503, everything becomes much more simplified and faster :sad: :nono:

[Rickster]

I think a thousand dollars will do it to play this 'wonderful' game.

But 'wonderful' is not enough reason, the more i read about 1701 the more i'm sure it will NOT have the 'gamedepth' of 1503, everything becomes much more simplified and faster :sad: :nono:


I agree with your point . I don't want to be negative (because I like what I see at the website and I have confidence this game will be great just like the previous parts), but my fear is that the game doesn't provide that much new depth in a way that it will set new standards. Of course the updates of the website are nice, but I think it would be better if the producers concentrated more on adding more depth in the game to keep the Anno-fans playing this game. And I think it would be wise to add more features to the game (not just the lodging activities, special guests etc.), because now it's only Anno 1602/1503 in a new jacket. Hopefully we as Anno-fans will be surprised by the developers (just as with Company of Heroes, which is setting a new standard in RTS games).

[Ravell]

because now it's only Anno 1602/1503 in a new jacket

1701 will be unfortunately based on 1602 with some added features, all in a wonderful graphics (if one has the machine to run it properly).
The gameplay in 1503 has a lot more depth! I wished the new anno would have based upon that instead of deleting uncounted good things from the previous game 1503 :sad:

[Dobber]

I did notice one thing that has been simplified that I totally agree with, when you build a grain farm the fields are automatically planted! No more having to plant individual fields! I wonder if all farms and plantations are that way?

[RoadRunner]

The gameplay in 1503 has a lot more depth! I wished the new anno would have based upon that instead of deleting uncounted good things from the previous game 1503 :sad:
Very interesting. Did you play the beta or where do you know that from? :wink:

IMHO you cannot judge about the "depth" if you know the features only - chess has indeed not much features. :biggrin:O And depth alone is no guarantee that the game will make you addicted... :wink:

[Dobber]

We really cannot judge this thing before we get our hands on it and play with it for a while.
As for the salt, it is really not needed, smoke cured meat is much better than salt cured meat IMHO!

And in the 1700's people had started bathing in a washtub in their homes, so another reason for no bathhouse.

[Ravell]

@Roadrunner

i said 1503 has a lot more 'depth' than 1602, and I can tell that because I've been playing Anno for 7 years now!
And no, I have not played the beta, but from all that is known about 1701 so far everything becomes a lot easier.... no?


I did notice one thing that has been simplified that I totally agree with, when you build a grain farm the fields are automatically planted! No more having to plant individual fields! I wonder if all farms and plantations are that way?

well, I don't agree with that automatic planting (there'a a thread goin on in the german forum), but it wouldn't really bother me IF there would be the possibility to plant manually also!! But there won't be! :nono:
You can't even plant trees anymore :eek: :sad:

I'm very pissed off about that :angry:

Dobber, you have the 1503 add-on, there is the perfect solution.... an autoplantbutton but also the possibility to plant by hand :cool:


As for the salt, it is really not needed, smoke cured meat is much better than salt cured meat IMHO!

And in the 1700's people had started bathing in a washtub in their homes, so another reason for no bathhouse.

if you see it this way there's always an excuse for some missing things. Why produce booze and tobacco, its very unhealthy for the folks, tea and herbs would be much better :biggrin:

And why are churches and pubs still needed, people can pray and get drunk at home also, why don't they all just stay home, that would be the easiest :rolleyes:

But I agree with you, we can't really judge the game before we played it a couple of hours, but we can talk about it and tell what we like and what we don't. There's still freedom of speech so far :wink:
:cheers:

[Moryarity]

stay cool guys :biggrin: and be nice to each other :go:

and concerning the topic:

How can you state something about the "depth" of a game, you never even played...you say "1701 will have less "depth" than 1503" becauxse some features are missing...but new has been developed...I ask you, what do you consider more difficult: Two build a sheep farm and a possibility to get furs and then built a cloth maker or builduing only the sheep farm and the clothmaker, but being unable to produce any cloths in times of war and repair your ships, because your enemy sent a demagoge to keep your people from working...I consider that more "depth" than simply to build two kins of "farms" to get one ware.......and as for the German thread..you should read my post there..it simply shown my points of view in that dicussion :go:

[Ravell]

Moryarity,

did I say anything offending?? :confused:

And I didn't 'state', I just told about my impression about the new game. But fact is it will become easier than 1503 because some officials found out somehow that 1503 was too complicated for some (many?) players.
I remember you said a few days ago in another thread that you never played 1503 because it was too difficult!

And as for the demagogue: This guy keeps the people 3 minutes away from working, comparable with a drought in 1503. I never paid any attention to the droughts because they were gone almost as fast as they came, guess thats similar with the demagogue.

And I say it again: I don't want to judge the game because I never played it.
I truefully wish and hope and pray that 1701 will become a true and honest successor!!
Anno is the only game I'm playing, fall in love with the first time I saw it, no other game survived more than 10 hrs on my Pc! Anno I figure ran more than a thousand .... and still running... :wink:
But I read and saw a lot already, enough to talk about my impressions I reckon :wink:

Of course I've read your posts in the other thread, can't get rid of the feeling your opinion is always the 'smooth' one, but I guess thats part of a moderators job :rolleyes:

Am I officially warned now? :silly:

[Rnett]

It should be a rolling brook anyways.:bowl: Babbling is running off at the mouth like I do sometimes.:yuck:

[Moryarity]

Moryarity,

did I say anything offending??

Not really offending, but your style of writing simply seems very aggressiv to me..so I just wanted to cool you guys down a bit, before it would be a heated discussion :go:

Am I officially warned now?

No, as I said, I just wanted to cool you guys down a bit :go:

But fact is it will become easier than 1503 because some officials found out somehow that 1503 was too complicated for some (many?) players.
I remember you said a few days ago in another thread that you never played 1503 because it was too difficult!

I am simply asking myself, how you can judge, that the game will become easier, if you haven´t played it....Is it because some goods disappeared, that makes you think, that it will be easier now :scratch: and considering 1503..Yes..I only played a couple of times..ended up in bankruptcy almost every time..and then decided, that 1602 better suites my kind of playing...

And as for the demagogue: This guy keeps the people 3 minutes away from working, comparable with a drought in 1503. I never paid any attention to the droughts because they were gone almost as fast as they came, guess thats similar with the demagogue.

Well, I guess 3 minutes in the right background may also do harm :biggrin:


I truefully wish and hope and pray that 1701 will become a true and honest successor!!

Thats, what we all want :go:


Of course I've read your posts in the other thread, can't get rid of the feeling your opinion is always the 'smooth' one, but I guess thats part of a moderators job :rolleyes:

Well, my opinion is my opinion, because that´s the way I think of the situation..not because I try to take the "smooth" one....I simply don´t see any sense in going to the board, finding a new information about the game and then saying..well, that is different than in 1503, so they have decided to make the game easier.....you see, I have read, this "they made the game easier of the player" argument about a dozen times and never got a single proof of that....it simply seems to me, that some players can´t accept, that this is "1701" and not "1503 II"...so why is every alteration from 1503 considered bad and an argument for "they made the game easier"...


but back to topic...... the fields of the farms are a good example for that:

Now, the fields are planted automatically, if the plantation is build...so once again :"that is made to make the game easier for those "Players"!"..

Well I consider it a good thing, as "building the fields" is not really a difficult job, but an annoying one :biggrin: click,click,click......make a large field, built farms in it...blablabla..so now, the game became - IMHO - more comfortable, but not easier...as I don´t consider "planting fields" a difficult task

So my statement is: "Well I am sad, that I cannot plant fields everywhere now, but I consider the autoplantation comfortable thing..so I have to make a compromise...and maybe there will be some possibility to make the cities more beuatiful..or at least, there is room for an Add-On.. or patch....

And be asured....I am really looking forward to 1701 and its new features and I guess, the producers are also very interested in creating a game which is not too easy :go:

MAybe you also consider, that 1503 maybe the "better Anno" for you, but is not neccessarily for all the players..maybe some others - as my self - cnsidered 1602 the "better" game and are happy, that 1701 misses some feature, that were in 1503 (old theme but, I have to mention the scout here :biggrin:) that was one of the things I didn´t like in 1503 :tongue:

[Rickster]

The auto-plantation feature should be made as an option (just like disasters for example), so that players can select whether they want that or not. Some players, like me, like to plant plantations in advance of building the building, to save costs and lay out an infrastructure.

Concerning the game itself: Sunflowers have to make up for a lot of lost confidence after the 'multiplayer trouble' with Anno 1503. I hope they have arranged for that in the development years, because I can imagine that some Anno-players will have second thoughts before they buy Anno 1701. The demo version will have a large role to play in this.

[Vic]

And I didn't 'state', I just told about my impression about the new game. But fact is it will

Saying "Fact is..." is likely the problem here. Saying it that way suggests that you know how it will be already and not that an opinion/impression is being made but rather, fact. No big deal, just a minor word choice thing that can give false impressions, I'm sure you didn't mean it that way. :ycool:

Personally, I prefer 1602 because I can play games with my friends. I did however prefer the depth that 1503 had, more production chains, more requirements for your people to progress and just more options/more to do than 1602. I realize there will likely be changes that may include removal of some production chains or streamlining of building (auto planting is just streamlining - it does not dumb things down at all, but I do hope to have the option of manually planting). These changes are likely not making the game easier or simpler but are necessities of evolving the series. As stated, there are new things added and until we have had time to see them in action they can't be dismissed as trivial. They need to be assesed in the big picture as far as how they compliment other game features before we can decide how small a role they will play.

[Rnett]

Bring back the trees, they were great for the SSC.....:angry:

[Dobber]

Concerning the game itself: Sunflowers have to make up for a lot of lost confidence after the 'multiplayer trouble' with Anno 1503. I hope they have arranged for that in the development years, because I can imagine that some Anno-players will have second thoughts before they buy Anno 1701. The demo version will have a large role to play in this.

In case you missed it elsewhere, a statement was made that 1701 would not be released without a working multiplay function. Also it has been stated in this forum(I do not remember now which thread) that the multiplay part of the game is already working in 1701. So multiplay trouble is a non-issue here.
And the MP of Anno 1503 is not a topic of conversation for this forum, nor are any other problems you may have with 1503.

[Ravell]

MAybe you also consider, that 1503 maybe the "better Anno" for you, but is not neccessarily for all the players..maybe some others - as my self - cnsidered 1602 the "better" game and are happy, that 1701 misses some feature, that were in 1503 (old theme but, I have to mention the scout here ) that was one of the things I didn´t like in 1503


I will never ever understand why some people hated the brave scout!!
He went everywhere, even up in the mountains, and many of them lost their lives , got stuck in an avalanche, missed the ship or whatever can happen.
Without scouts there's no discovering, thats how I understand a good game!
History can tell!
Please don't tell me about the lodge activities and the terrorists now, I've read that all about the new kinky bad guys. Quite sure I'll kick their *** if they show up, but thats not really annolike, don't want no terrorists activities in the game!!

But what happened to the brave scout and his donkey?
They are dismissed with a thumb down, thrown into hell. By a noobgod who don't care much ... :angry:

my 2 cents about the late scout :sad:

[Dobber]

The scout to me was good to have around for certain things, like trading with someone that shared the island with you. But as for exploring the island, I always liked the 1602 method of island exploration.

[Ravell]

yeah, at least you had to click the explore-button.... in the future islands will be explored just sailing by :oogle:

forgot to mention it last night... rumours say no more taverns in the seventeenhundreds :huh:

[Dobber]

Haven't heard that one! I guess they will be having parties in the basement with their contraban leather accessories and chains, while consuming their alcohol at home. :biggrin: BTW, has anyone heard if the hemp farms survived the cut?