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Dobber
16-10-2006, 02:49
The point is that the poll result looks like there is no interest in a campaign multiplayer mode at all, in a patch or elsewhere. Your arguing about "I want it, but not in this patch, but an addon cos that what it's officially called" goes to the dictionary under "hair-splitting".

I don't think any hairs are being split, there is a clear definition between patches and add-ons! Patches are not add-ons. Patches replace bad code with good code, faulty programming with corrected programming, changes behavior code within the game, improving and turning on features already coded into the game, things such as that. Add-ons add components to the game, new features, new maps, new scenarios, new opponents and things of that nature.
So no, there were no hairs being split by Elvain!

hawk_knight
16-10-2006, 10:58
I don't think any hairs are being split, there is a clear definition between patches and add-ons! Patches are not add-ons. Patches replace bad code with good code, faulty programming with corrected programming, changes behavior code within the game, improving and turning on features already coded into the game, things such as that. Add-ons add components to the game, new features, new maps, new scenarios, new opponents and things of that nature.
So no, there were no hairs being split by Elvain!


your right about that dobber patchs and add-ons are 2 compleetly diffrent things. got one more point for that patches are free to download. add-ons cost you money if you wanna have it. As add-ons fix maybe more things than a patch and put many more features to the game example a whole new side of the map + many more kingdoms etc.

Tempest
16-10-2006, 13:01
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I am perfectly aware about the differences between a patch and an add-on. I just think it's totally off-topic since the question here is if we want a decent multiplayer mode or not.

Dobber
16-10-2006, 13:14
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I am perfectly aware about the differences between a patch and an add-on. I just think it's totally off-topic since the question here is if we want a decent multiplayer mode or not.

No, that is where you are wrong!

The question was should a decent multiplayer mode be included in the patch!

Title of the thread/poll:

"Should they make Campaign multiplayer in the patch?"

And the answer choices given do not seem to belong to the same question,
The first choice - " The patch should make this happen!"
is clear in its meaning and does present itself as a proper answer to the question.
The second choice - "I don't want it."
is an unclear response to the question, it lends itself to a feeling of no I don't want the Campaign multiplayer. A fair wording for an answer of an opposing choice to the first choice would be - "The patch should not make this happen!" And that is how I interpreted the choice when I made my answer of No on this poll.

Tempest
16-10-2006, 15:40
The second choice - "I don't want it."
is an unclear response to the question, it lends itself to a feeling of no I don't want the Campaign multiplayer. A fair wording for an answer of an opposing choice to the first choice would be - "The patch should not make this happen!" And that is how I interpreted the choice when I made my answer of No on this poll.
Yes, but that is your interpretation. What you actually voted for is that you don't want the multiplayer mode, cos that is what the poll actually says.

Angryminer
16-10-2006, 16:27
A typical matter of "To get the right answer you first have to ask the right question". If the poll is phrased misleading the votes and the conclusions drawn from them are also misleading.

Angryminer

Dobber
16-10-2006, 17:15
Yes, but that is your interpretation. What you actually voted for is that you don't want the multiplayer mode, cos that is what the poll actually says.
Yes, that is my interpretation and it is the proper interpretation when you take the question and the answers in their entire context rather than disecting them to meet the way you want them interpreted. Where the problem comes in is with misinterpretation of the question!

You still are misinterpreting the question!

The question was and I take the question right from the poll:

Should they make Campaign multiplayer in the patch?

The answer I selected was, "I don't want it." What do I not want? "Campaign multiplayer in the patch", just as the question states!

YOU MY FRIEND ARE THE ONE SPLITTING HAIRS, OR SHOULD I SAY SPLITTING THE QUESTION BY LEAVING OFF THE LAST PART OF IT.

The question was not "should they make Campaign multiplayer" as you seem to think it was.

Elvain
16-10-2006, 17:19
The point is that the poll result looks like there is no interest in a campaign multiplayer mode at all, in a patch or elsewhere. Your arguing about "I want it, but not in this patch, but an addon cos that what it's officially called" goes to the dictionary under "hair-splitting".
Is it my fault that the question was so badly asked?

So I apologise that I want to make the things clear. If the poll question would be asked any better I'd ansewr as clearly as I do now. I want MP campaign, no I don't want it to happen in the patch.

(and btw, I haven't voted in this poll yet and never will coz I support the multiplayer campaign thing but don't want to vote against it)

close this poll and open a clear one: Do you want the MP campaign?
yes or not

Dobber
16-10-2006, 17:29
Elvain, from everything I have seen of Mr. Compton's posting's I think he really meant what he asked and really wants the Campaign multiplayer in the patch.

It is even clear from the first post of this thread what his purpose of this poll is:

Should they make Campaign multiplayer in the patch?

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It may be too large of a change, but I think its clear its what we all want.

Too large of a change for what? The patch as stated in the question.

Elvain
16-10-2006, 17:35
Right.

That's maybe the diference between us 2.
When we finally got to one goal which seemed to be impossible I want to halp to make this goal closer to be really what we want: a good patch
instead of demanding another impossible goal what Kevincompton does.

What's the sense in that?

We had full right demanding the patch, we also have right to ask for the MP campaign, but it makes no sense to demand the MP campaign right now

better ask them for KoH2 after the patch (and later BSS's new game) is done

Kuno of Gersenau
16-10-2006, 18:12
Please continue this discussion in Dobber's new threads:

Would you like to have Campaign multiplayer included in the upcoming patch?
http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=11544

and

Would you like to have Campaign multiplayer in the game?
http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=11543



So now we can discuss about a poll which has enough answers to state what you really want.


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