gelre ( mayby a Q for elewyn)

[shagrath_the_dead]

hi all
i watched some programs about medieval europe

the talked about the lands of gelre
is that the pr0vince of 'gelderland' as we know it today here in the netherlands?

and the bourgondies,can someone explain me what and where they were,were they part of holland or where they french etc etc..?
thanks in advance

[timurlenk]

for gelre see here! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelre)

for burgundy / bourgogne see there! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burgundy)


thanks, wikipedia :cheers:

[shagrath_the_dead]

and thanks tou you :)