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Ledhead
19-06-2004, 13:41
I've seen people sharing links so I've decided to share with one of mine favourites:

www.byzantium1200.com (http://www.byzantium1200.com/)

Hope you will find it entertaining!

Hector
19-06-2004, 16:08
nice

Hector
19-06-2004, 19:00
i hope they will make a minature version of it in real!

4zzY
21-06-2004, 18:16
WOW!!!
:go:
this site is just great
ubelievable!
i just cant wait untill they finish it all
and publish it on the internet
my God they can do so amazing stuff with all this
they can make an interactive simulation
of the life in Constantinople
they can even sell it to some gaming company
and to make an entire game situated in Constantinople
oh my God this site got me reaaaaally excited
can you imagine it a Thief-like game
and you steal real historical treasures
...
i really got carried away

Sir Turylon
21-06-2004, 19:01
oooh.. I can see it now.

a RPG set in the middle ages. :)

call it.. The Byzantium Scrolls. hehe

Nike
22-06-2004, 15:00
That would be great! I will destroy Byzantium with my lousy play. :D

Ben Nevis
22-06-2004, 15:28
looks great

Ledhead
24-06-2004, 12:51
Another Byzantine link, avery short historical overwiew:

The Byzantines (http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~dee/MA/BYZ.HTM)

Hector
24-06-2004, 13:40
lol both of the site's are under construction:p

Ledhead
26-06-2004, 11:13
They work now...
So to keep your interest up I've added another link:

Theban Tribunal Sourcebook (http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Labyrinth/2398/bginfo/sourcebk.html)

Hector
26-06-2004, 11:56
i like that site much information i will read it all when i am back.

thnx man you know very much about anatolia

Ledhead
26-06-2004, 20:32
Well...I read a lot about the subject, but that's not the same thing as knowing much about it. Maybe in a couple of years...

4zzY
27-06-2004, 01:22
well...
by reading stuff like the latter site
you won't get to far in your quest for knowledge:rolleyes:
it is not generally wrong and can be useful of course
but some conclusions are completely wrong

depending on how old you are
you can try reading some more serious books on byzantium
BYZANTINA XRONIKA for examle
is a chroniclå of the Buzantine Empire
with small paragraphs discussing each important event
it has several volumes but i've seen only the third
it is extremely interesting if you are into eastern european civilizations
it has a huge bibliography at the end as well which can come in handy
but if you are only curious dont try it
it could be verry dissapointing to find thorough analysis
of some universal sinod held in a town you never heard of etc.
it does not have much suspence in it if you get the idea
you could also try at your local university
if you live in some major city it is sure for them to have
a byzantology departament
there are some great russian hystorians
who also write very nicely and easy to follow and understand stuff
you may find some of it strange though if you are not orthodox
but i cant help it the link between byzantium and christianity
is more than extremely significant
good luck
and have fun

Ledhead
27-06-2004, 01:38
I don't count these sites as reading and learning about the Byzantine Empire. They are just ruff overviews, more as a bait for the not yet dedicated.
Thanx for the tip though, do you have an author on that Byzantine Chronicle?

4zzY
27-06-2004, 02:28
G. Litavrin is the author
one of the leading russian byzantologists
but i searched a little onthe internet
and found only russian bulgarian and french
versions oof the book
i also found that it has 80!!!!!! volumes:eek:
that guy must be a freak!
sorry but i know great books on the subject
but only in bulgarian and russian
can tell you some titles but dont know
if you can find them in your language
the russians have some great hystorians writing on Byzanium
given that they are the strongest orthodox country of today
their interest onthe matter is not to be underestimated
but still i would suggest going to your university's library
they should have something
try with the period 10-12 century
i find it the most interesting
the early 5-7 is also very rewarding
if you want to see the dark side of their civilization
the iconophie struggles and the persian wars etc etc

btw glad you are interested in the stuff
i dont see to many western europeans to know much about byzanium
and thats a great shame if you ask me

Nike
27-06-2004, 17:24
Originally posted by 4zzY
G. Litavrin is the author
one of the leading russian byzantologists
but i searched a little onthe internet
and found only russian bulgarian and french
versions oof the book

Is the book available online? If so, could you give me a link to the BG version?

Ledhead
27-06-2004, 19:19
Originally posted by 4zzY
btw glad you are interested in the stuff
i dont see to many western europeans to know much about byzanium
and thats a great shame if you ask me

Western Europeans tend to be rather narrowminded about European history, for many of them only the history of the countrys in western Europe is history worth knowing about.
Completelly fogetting that thanks to all the central European counrtys (I use this term for the countrys that used to be called eastern Europe during the Cold war and maybe even today by "westerners") and people "they" at all have the history they have now.
Wouldn't it have been for central Europe, from the Russians in the east to the Poles, Czechs, Hungarians in the west and the South slavs and Byzantines in the south to south-east, the whole of Europe would have spoken a mix of Hunn, Mongolian and Turkish today. Not that that has to be something bad in any way!

Unfortunetelly many "westerners" (at least all I've met!) are totally unaware of this. They lose their ability to speak when I share, these, my thoughts with them...
But then again, I'm not actually a western European. Born in Sweden so I'm culturally a Swede in many ways. My parents emigrated from Poland, my great grandparents on one side spoke Belorussian and lived in Novogorodek and I have a German family name, with a Polish spelling of course:D
I consider my self to be a Centraleuropean.

So it looks like I have to learn Russian or we could get together and you can translate and read everything to me...
:cheers:

Hector
27-06-2004, 23:24
i dont speak Bulgarian and Russian:(

Ledhead
27-06-2004, 23:30
Originally posted by Hector
i dont speak Bulgarian and Russian:(

It seems like 4zzY does...

4zzY
28-06-2004, 00:01
the book is available for you nike in bulgarian
not all volumes but i found some info about it
every volume costs approximately 15lv
it can be ordered in some rusian sites as well
for the equivalent of 6-8 euro
and a slight correction there are 87 volumes so far
it must be something huge
given that the book i read was more than 300 pages
dont go to slaveikov square go to the national library
your parent's student id will get you in
and you can copy what you want on a reasonable price
heve fun

ledhead get to your university library
there youll find more and maybe more interesting books
my knowledge on the matter is not so great
so i cant tell you where to find what sorry
there are sources in every language
not only bulgarian and russan
just you have to search a little harder
good luck

ps
how come that you dont speak bulgarian and russian folks
they are two of the most popular languages :D