National mods?

[Siegebreaker]

Are there any mods that cover only one country?
Like for example, a map for england and ireland, with both country divide in 50 or more provinces. Something like a "zoomed in" map.

The problem is that europe is too big.
A map of France, divide in 100 provinces, with every major feudal family in France as a faction, would be awesome. :cool:

Anyway, is there anything like this?
If not, is it too hard to learn how to used the map editor so I can mae my own?

Thanks.

[Elvain]

You can try to use the map editor.

But it's too buggy and we haven't succeeded yet to make it work, maybe also because it requires not only "playing" with thingies in the map editor but also some scripting in files (and we don't even known which files belong among those that have to be created)

I hope the patch deals with it somehow.

Yet we never succeeded even in adding a province to the Europe map, and the only success we had was Laudan who managed to create a battle map.

So no national mods, though they'd be great and perfect step to Campaign multiplayer

[Angryminer]

I made a campaign map that can be played. With different new kingdoms, all new territory and provinces.
All you really need is the 1.02 version of the game. In that version the map editor works fine.
I just don't have the time to do something like that myself. Also I don't have the necessary historical data.
And additionally, it isn't always senseful to have 'independant' factions within a country. In France the King would surely have had objections to all his provinces waging war against each other!

Angryminer

[Elvain]

could you upload it? or at least a screenshot, I wonder how it looks and would like to try it...

[Siegebreaker]

And additionally, it isn't always senseful to have 'independant' factions within a country. In France the King would surely have had objections to all his provinces waging war against each other!

Angryminer

Up to the 100 Years War there were around 200 feudal lords with titles similars to the king. The King of France was just the "first" lord of the realm. I believe the total number of feudal dominions were around 20 000 or so. That's including every lord in the feudal pyramid, from a cavalier holding a small lot to the Count of Tollouse, "the king in the south".

The king of france had very little real power. There was a point in which only the "isle d' France" which is the area around Paris, was under his control.

[Elvain]

Up to the 100 Years War there were around 200 feudal lords with titles similars to the king. The King of France was just the "first" lord of the realm. I believe the total number of feudal dominions were around 20 000 or so. That's including every lord in the feudal pyramid, from a cavalier holding a small lot to the Count of Tollouse, "the king in the south".

The king of france had very little real power. There was a point in which only the "isle d' France" which is the area around Paris, was under his control.
the situation you describe is very deformed!

first you describe situation that could be applied only on period up to 1180 (though you claim ot was untill 1337) when Philippe II. became the king and centralized rule.

Also the number of french fiefs with some power (duchies and counties) was not higher than 100-130, many of them being under rule of one count/duke who had own vasals, but they had no power at all and were just his vasals.

Generaly you could count up to 15 counts/dukes who could have more or less independent policy which could challenge the king (namely counts/dukes of Flandre, Normandy, Champagne, Burgundy, Blois, Anjou, Bretagne, Aquitaine, and Tolouse) and were able to lead "independent" wars and such against each other.
In 1154 Anjou, Normandy and Aquitaine fell under English rule. In 1180-1204 north of France was centralised so then France became centralised state with no powerfull vasals (with exception of king of England holding Aquitaine), the last part of France that fell under strong king's rule was the south (Languedoc - domain of count of Tolouse) in 1220's

Eventhough the counts/dukes were in fact independent on king's rule before 1180, when they led wars against each other they still respected king's authority as a "referee" between them. So it's much different from teh situation you describe of some 20 000 feudal lords waring one against each other