Landlords and Builders

[zaggy]

I don't really use those two types of knights. Really...
You need to usually have 2-3 marshals, one cleric, one spy (maybe two) and a couple of merchants too. Having a finite space for knights it really doesn't allow much room for those two guys. Besides, every knight has some advantage for the whole kingdom (mashals, clerics, spies and merchants), with the exception to the builders and the landlords who only bring bonuses to a particular city. I think in big kingdoms its completely unjustified to hire those two as they only take up space and don't really help the empire.

just my 2 cents.

[Alex Poff]

I agree. For all intents and purposes, they are relatively useless knights.

[JavalTigar]

I say combine both into Landlord and give a 50% increase to food & build w/ 10% increase for each star of experience. Would be great for developement of newly aquired lands.

I would use him then.

[Arcador]

They help, but not that much...

[Cali Knight]

There good for starting a kigdom off but once you have enough money there pretty useless.

[Paladin|Lazy|]

I use them early game, yeah. Usually I need so much military force they just get put by the wayside later.

[the knightly sword]

well i dont use them at all they are pretty useless . :cool:

[lurking horror]

Never used them. Never seemed to need them.

[DruStorm]

I made a prince a builder once, but I didn't notice that big a difference--not to justify giving him a space in the court. I tried a landlord once, but again, his effect wasn't enough to justify giving him one of my valuable court slots.

[Arcador]

They got *deadly* with 5 stars, but 5 stars ain't free...

[Sir Turylon]

no exp builder only gives +1 work units. 1 star builder only brings in +2 work units. not a good investment in the beginning.

think on this... Hostel + axe smith + tool smithy + horse farm is a better investment than 1000 books for one level upgrade of a builder. base 1 work unit to 2 work units or... base 1 work unit to 6 work units?

landlords are similair... only +1 food for no exp and +2 food for level 2 experience... a bonus % of food would have been better than just + constant

IE...

Landlord +20% increase for no experience, +30% for level 1, +40% for level three, +50% to to +70% increase.
Level 5 landlord, +5 food or + 1.7 * 10 food ? 15 or 17 food? which would be better?

[Angryminer]

Or No exp Landlord gives you +1 food in each farm.

Angryminer

[zeek40]

Agreed, it's barely worth the 1000 gold for the small bonus you get from an untrained landlord or builder, much less the slot in the court. Mabye if they gave a bonus to the province they're governing and all the provinces directly adjacent to that province it would be worth it. I think they're both pretty unimpressive even with 5 stars, and by the time i can afford to invest 5000 books in one of them, that slot is too valuable to waste on a small bonus in 1 province.

[Petwin, Duke of Earl]

I use my books to counter nostalgia. If I had double the amount of books, I would all use them to counter nostalgia. If I have any books to spare, I upgrade my cleric to improve his changes of converting. No Landlords or builders for me!