Kingdoms?

[Da_weasel]

is it possible to play the Prussian Kingdom? I am sort of a history guy and was woundering if it was posswible even if it ment to be a vassel at first.

[Elvain]

do you mean Teutonic order?
yes it is possible. In high and late middleages (arond 1200 and 1350)

the game takes place in middle ages and last entry period is late MA, so no new age Prussia

[Da_weasel]

No not the teutonic order,I mean the Prussians,if you loko into the history books you see that prussia was a small set of tribes located in what is now Kaliningrad before the TO and after the TO they where able to become a kingdom later in history...I can get the dates if it helps any.

[Elvain]

I know what you mean... Prussia before 1227 when TO came to Poland and conquered Prussia

there is only Lithuania to represent "baltic" nations, in the early entry point (around 1000) "Lithuania" covers whole Baltic region (instead of making each tribe separate nation devs decided to do it this way), you can fight under Lithuanian banner

[Da_weasel]

okay....what about pomerain..i think thats how u spell it i saw them in the mid catagoery on screen shots.I am currently waiting for my game to arrive.It is a kingdom to west of what is prussia.Do you know what there banner was?
Thanks again for the insite on this...sometimes it ****s to live in the states but fortunes comes to those that wait.

[Largefry07]

I've seen Prussia in many games. I don't know if they started out as a kingdom or rebels started the kingdom.

[Elvain]

there are many rebellions in prussia in my games too and few times it has arisen as separate nation as pagan nation, that's true (As far as I remember it was mostly when I played for Byzantia in early midle ages)

To Pomerania/Pommern. Yes, there is this "kingdom" (county I guess), originally as vassal of Germany (wrong) in the high MA, they are of polish nationality (having Polish names and titles) and banner is AFAIR red eagle or what on white field (but in this I may be wrong)

[Pioneer]

Any county can become a kingdom through revolt, but if they are not available at the start they cannot be played. Prussia can be a rival, it can never be your kingdom. Of course there could be a trigger secularising the Teutonic Knights and converting them into a Duchy of Prussia, or simply creating the Duchy through conquest of certain counties, similar to those for Ireland, England and Byzantia. But the first happened in 1525 as a consequence of the Reformation and so is outside the scope of the game. The second is possible, though I do not think it is a trigger.

[Illuminatus!]

If only there was a custom scenario creator...more on that some other time.

[Da_weasel]

Guess I will have to settle with using Pomerania/Pommern..and capture Prussia to start my prussian empire

[Da_weasel]

Is Romania a playable kingdom?Just woundering and knowing my luck it isn't but I thought I would ask anyways.

[Elvain]

it isn't even as possible for re-unification.

btw, do you already have the full game?

[Da_weasel]

Thank you Elvain for your help in this questions I have had and no I haven't gotten my full game yet I have gotten an email saying that I should get in about a week and that was onmonday so I am hoping it comes here soon.I really can't wait to start my conquest of europe. :)