Skiping intro

[Angryminer]

The statement was about 5 months ago. I don't think I have any interest in searching through the whole forum just to proove something to you you don't want to believe anyway. :go:

Angryminer

[Elf Cleric]

The statement was about 5 months ago. I don't think I have any interest in searching through the whole forum just to proove something to you you don't want to believe anyway. :go:

Angryminer

Yes!
I do believe you!
That's not the point!

The point is;

- What is more important for BBS?
- Intro of the distributors or game buyers?

EA and SUNFLOWERS does let the user to skip intros of their other games but not the KOH??

- BBS could have make the buyer feel better by giving a chance of skiping the intro of BBS,
but they did not do it (BBS intro is the longest)????????

As long as the intro of BBS is there and not skipable, there is no way to make me (buyer) happy by just blaiming EA and SUNFLOWERS!!!

And I hope BBS also can understand that game will sell if it's made for pleasure of the buyers and games are not advertisement board of distributors!!

- I believe there are many gamers in this forum who like to have a good game instead of good intro!!

:cheers:

[Frujin]

@Elf Cleric: Are you blind? Don't you read my post a bit above?

BSS (it is not BBS by the way) did the intros as they are, because of explicit order coming from Sunflowers (who might be ordered to do so by EA).

[Elf Cleric]

@Elf Cleric: Are you blind? Don't you read my post a bit above?

BSS (it is not BBS by the way) did the intros as they are, because of explicit order coming from Sunflowers (who might be ordered to do so by EA).

Ok!
So it's BSS!!
(If you take care of the buyers they will remember your name better!!)

Did SUNFLOWERS gave you order to put a bloody intro of yours in to the start of the game and make the longest possible??

How come BSS have the longest intro???
How come BSS can not make their intro skipable???

Do you FRUJIN want some more comments???
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Man,
You guys can forget collecting honor points if you are not even able to take away a bloody intro of yours!!!

:bash: :bash: :bash:

[Elf Cleric]

@Elf Cleric: Are you blind? Don't you read my post a bit above?

BSS (it is not BBS by the way) did the intros as they are, because of explicit order coming from Sunflowers (who might be ordered to do so by EA).

FRUJIN,

I have been reading too many posts about the intros of yours in this forums.
Nobody likes to have that bloody intros of yours.
And remember that they all are buyers!!!

Should not you think about your feature??

How are you goint to make this peoples buy your next releases??

By offering them nice intros???

No hard feelings mate!!

You first build a nice game and than screw it with some stupid intros!!

:cheers:

[Elvain]

BSS intro IS skipable.

if they had order from their stupid publisher(here I mean EA, not Sunflowers!), they(BSS) had to do it or their game(KoH) won't possibly be released not only in the US, but maybe also in Europe.

Maybe EA behaves in different way to older companies and they use diferent strategy for their own games(if they do any) than to new company "from some *** in Bulgaria"(here I presume EA thinking, I like Bulgaria!)
as we can see, they do many things to harm Knights of Honor and BSS, maybe the intro is one of them

that BSS made their intro the longest one(but skipable) is maybe because it is their first game and they need somehow to be remembered. And it't not such annoying. There are some other things that BSS should work on than making absolutely skipable intro

[Redback]

Come-on ,- Elf Cleric
Does the Intro really matter that much?. :peace:

I think if people really like the game and want to play it,they will not care about if you can skip the Intro or not.

A game sells by having good gameplay, :go:
not by having a Skipable/non-skipable Intro.

Frujin and BSS have done a great job with KoH ,and they put alot of work into the game.
It just needs a few things fixed and imo KoH could become a classic. :biggrin: :cheers:


{@Frujin It really needs a 2nd patch to at least fix the difficulty its way too easy even on Hard .hint ,hint :wink: :wink: please even if its an un-official one.} :cheers:

[Elf Cleric]

BSS intro IS skipable.

if they had order from their stupid publisher(here I mean EA, not Sunflowers!), they(BSS) had to do it or their game(KoH) won't possibly be released not only in the US, but maybe also in Europe.

Maybe EA behaves in different way to older companies and they use diferent strategy for their own games(if they do any) than to new company "from some *** in Bulgaria"(here I presume EA thinking, I like Bulgaria!)
as we can see, they do many things to harm Knights of Honor and BSS, maybe the intro is one of them

that BSS made their intro the longest one(but skipable) is maybe because it is their first game and they need somehow to be remembered. And it't not such annoying. There are some other things that BSS should work on than making absolutely skipable intro

How it's skipable?
After 5 sec?
That I know allready!!
And that's not the way I like!!

:cheers:

[Elf Cleric]

Come-on ,- Elf Cleric
Does the Intro really matter that much?. :peace:

I think if people really like the game and want to play it,they will not care about if you can skip the Intro or not.

A game sells by having good gameplay, :go:
not by having a Skipable/non-skipable Intro.

Frujin and BSS have done a great job with KoH ,and they put alot of work into the game.
It just needs a few things fixed and imo KoH could become a classic. :biggrin: :cheers:


{@Frujin It really needs a 2nd patch to at least fix the difficulty its way too easy even on Hard .hint ,hint :wink: :wink: please even if its an un-official one.} :cheers:

Yeah!
It does metter for me!!
I like the game too and that's why I am angry to BSS because that long intro of theirs is screwing the taste of the game.

Forcing to watch intro crap is not any good gameplay!!

It really is important for many peoples to be able to skip the intro.

KOH will never be a classic because it is not that good!!

I do not think intro is going to help BSS to collect honor points it is the game which is going to do that!

So,
I am still waiting for the next PATCH where intro crap is skipable!!
Nobody plays the same game for long!
Next patch is the key of am I going to buy BSS game again or not!

So,
FRUJIN is going to need to think about that!

And soon I am going to get the game I have been waiting for;

- A masterpiece
- A master of the games
- A classic
- COSSACKS 2

:cheers:

[Elvain]

once again. BSS is a new company, so EA might make a pressure on them to HAVE those intros there. Probably they don't do this to their other partners, but they did it to BSS, so they had to have there 5 sec intros in KoH.

One company may behave in different ways to different partners.
Is f.i. any of the games you posted released and distributed in the USA? KoH isn't. And it is only resolution of EA, not BSS. So in this case I have very strong feeling that EA tries to harm BSS(their partner!!) as much as they can.

Why, that's question for EA, not for BSS

[Payne]

once again. BSS is a new company, so EA might make a pressure on them to HAVE those intros there. Probably they don't do this to their other partners, but they did it to BSS, so they had to have there 5 sec intros in KoH.

One company may behave in different ways to different partners.
Is f.i. any of the games you posted released and distributed in the USA? KoH isn't. And it is only resolution of EA, not BSS. So in this case I have very strong feeling that EA tries to harm BSS(their partner!!) as much as they can.

Why, that's question for EA, not for BSS

Lame excuse: "EA forced us to make the intros not skipable"

EA has no other game this type of restriction. I believe it was Sunflowers or BSS wo made this restriction. Now they are blaming EA for it.

[Webmaster]

welcome to the board!
the none skipability of the intros is part of the contract between EA and SF.

and other EA games does have such stuff also!
example battle for middleearth, the newline cinema trailer isn't skipable, the p4 ht, thx and dolby are!

[Payne]

welcome to the board!
thx

the none skipability of the intros is part of the contract between EA and SF.

and other EA games does have such stuff also!
example battle for middleearth, the newline cinema trailer isn't skipable, the p4 ht, thx and dolby are!


I dont have the games mentioned here, but i have some older games from EA.
Maybe it is a new restriction.

I am using Tempest-Intro-Mod, so it doesnt really care. But i can understand that it is for other players really annoying.

[Webmaster]

yes, i understand it ... but were not allowed to patch this issue based on the publishing contract ;(

[naturewhisperer]

There is a possibility, but without warranty!

From the german forum:
http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=2838

Download this file:
http://www.minos.net/~tempest/Logos.zip

Like Tempest sayd in this german thread:
Owerwrite the files logos.pak in the packs folder with the new file.
This action is without warranty and a mod of the game. Befor, make a
security copy of logos.pak.

PS: It works in the german and the english version, i think in every version!

Greetings Naturewhisperer

[Elf Cleric]

There is a possibility, but without warranty!

From the german forum:
http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=2838

Download this file:
http://www.minos.net/~tempest/Logos.zip

Like Tempest sayd in this german thread:
Owerwrite the files logos.pak in the packs folder with the new file.
This action is without warranty and a mod of the game. Befor, make a
security copy of logos.pak.

PS: It works in the german and the english version, i think in every version!

Greetings Naturewhisperer

Oh Brother!
I like to thank you very much!!

Now I do not need to se that intro crap!

This really works!
It's showing only logos which is good!

:cheers:

[Lord-Piecemeal]

Thanks Naturewhisperer, this was driveing me round the bend to.

What a silly way for EA to behave, tell you, you have to put this in the contract, and then not sell It In the USA. :bland:

[moulin1]

I agree with elf cleric 100%. It is unacceptably obnoxious. Try my version of the intro. It displays the EA logo for less than a second (copy to your paks directory).

http://www.angelfire.com/pop2/eatenbymice/logos.pak

[El Cid Campeador]

Tengo un archivo para saltarse el logo del cara de demonio pero no se como ponerlo en este foro si alguien lo quiere que me lo pida a mi correo abc3030@hotmail.com el archivo es de 51 KB y se llama Nologos-KOH.exe

I had a skip intro instalator, you can request to me at abc3030@hotmail.com the archive is 51 kb size. wen you extrac the on "Knights of Honor" carpet you can sey god bye to that moter****er demon-face guy.

[Doux]

I know an 2.2 kb full intro-skipper too. But I think only people (like me) who experience 2-3 crashes per time playing KoH should use it. It's no that much of an effort to watch the intro's 5s if you can continiuously play the game.

Battlefield 1942 had a non-skippable intro too (from EA).