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Hi everybody
I missed one quest in the game. The most powerfull christian kingdoms were always copying Roman empire, so I think it should be possible to rebuild Rome, to reunite roman empire.
I'd like to make this quest available (For France, Holy Roman Empire and Byzantia). I already did and now I'm testing it.
I have just one question:
in files unite_blablabla, there are flags not defined as usualy by color1, color2 and ornament, but there is some indefinite number, in cese of united Byzantia(which was my source-file), there is:
change_flag = 984337
change_politcolor = 48
I agree that politcolor should be as it is(Byzantian, but I's like to edit the flag to make it golden eagle in purple shield (eagle was symbol of Rome, purple was color of Emperors).
I know how to define it in kingdom files by colors and ornaments, but not by flags. Nowhere I can find those terrible numbers :sad:
colors for Rome would be:
color1 = 5
color2 = 9
ornament = 12
polit_color = 48
what would be the result flag number?
Let the glory of Roman empire be arisen from it's ashes!!!
PS: if anybody has any ideas for this quests, I am open...
PPS: it will be part of my own mod which I am working on now. There will be many new kingdoms, f.e. pagan Prussia, Saladin's Ayyubid empire, county of Flandres, county of Holland, and few others :smile: + of course some def changes...
Angryminer
30-01-2005, 12:26
Your ideas sound really great. Brilliant! Keep on your good work. Can't wait to apply your mod to my KoH! :go:
Angryminer
Even though I don't play the game anymore, I think it sounds great!
Keep up the good work!
PS: @Angryminer there will be also quest unite_germany remade to unite Holy Roman Empire (able for Austria, Bohemia, etc.)
Angryminer
30-01-2005, 12:50
Yay! You're my hero! :go:
Angryminer
Aesenius
30-01-2005, 14:14
Great idea indeed!!! :ycool:
i vote negative because like you said Romans belongs to ancient times.But since you making this it means that i can remove file whenever i want and play normal KOH.I think its good.Keep working.
anybody knows what about the flag?
It's not so bad, having orthodox cross as roman symbol, but it would be better with an eagle :smile:
@Diablo: Roman empire belongs to ancient times, sure, but almost every European empire(and now also USA) was copying rome...
that'S why I think it would be nice to have the possibility to reunite medieval Rome...
PS: yes, you can simply delete this file and since it is made as NEW one, it will not influence anything
Illuminatus!
30-01-2005, 18:39
anybody knows what about the flag?
It's not so bad, having orthodox cross as roman symbol, but it would be better with an eagle :smile:
@Diablo: Roman empire belongs to ancient times, sure, but almost every European empire(and now also USA) was copying rome...
that'S why I think it would be nice to have the possibility to reunite medieval Rome...
PS: yes, you can simply delete this file and since it is made as NEW one, it will not influence anything
Which nations can start the quest? Just Byzantia? And what about religion? Would that be a necessary component (i.e. Catholicism or paganism)? What about the Roman Republic? Could two nations (one after the other, of course) unite the former Roman Empire/Republic and have a choice to restore something like one or the other? As long as we're talking about older nations, how about Carthage or a Celtic civilization (the Celts being started by pagan rebels?)?
1)Which nations can start the quest? Just Byzantia? 2)And what about religion? Would that be a necessary component (i.e. Catholicism or 3)paganism)? 4) What about the Roman Republic? Could two nations (one after the other, of course) unite the former Roman Empire/Republic and have a choice to restore something like one or the other? As long as we're talking about older nations, how about Carthage or a Celtic civilization (the Celts being started by pagan rebels?)?1)I don't know it I should tell it now, I'd like to let it as surprise for you :smile: but you will although read it before you try, so Byzantia is sure. Second sure is Holy Roman Empire (you can became emperor of HRE playing Germany, Austria, Bohemia and all other HRE duchies).
Now I'm testing it also with France
2)due to fact of HRE as one of possible uniters, required religions are catholicism and orthodoxy
3) since you canot convert your nation to paganism, it's not relevant. Also when talking about Roman empire as the ideal of christian Europe, it was of course Constantine's Rome, so christian Rome-Universal Empire of christians
- no, not paganism
4)roman republic was pagan. Ideal of christian Europe was the Empire, not pagan republic. The republic belongs to ancient times only. The same with other civs. they're not for KoH
PS: still no idea about my question. Frujin?
Illuminatus!
31-01-2005, 05:54
roman republic was pagan. Ideal of christian Europe was the Empire, not pagan republic. The republic belongs to ancient times only. The same with other civs. they're not for KoH
KoH allows you to explore "What if...?", right? Well, what if the Roman Republic stayed a republic? What if Carthage, and not Rome, had won the Punic Wars? What if Islam had continued into Europe and didn't stop at the Battle of Tours?
Well I have really bad news for you. I won't give you these quests (Unite Rome and Unite HRE) because few things are impossible. I prefere not seing Rome in the game from seing kingdom of Rome (as Roman Empire) or duchy of Holy Roman Empire. Also making vassals turned to be impossible as I wanted it, as Frujin told me :bawling: ....so I will probably only send only a small improvements, mostly small changes of Angryminers mod and edits of starting points, enabling playing with Holland, Flandre, Tolouse, pagan Prussia, Holy Roman Empire(in high period), Sallahaddin's empire, Bavaria and Carinthia
Angryminer
08-02-2005, 12:18
That's great anyway! :go:
I can't wait for the Emperor of the HRE to ask for an audience at my court... :wink:
Angryminer
Dear Angry...
can't promise it definitively but on sunday you will be able... here are some screenshots as a demonstration... new kingdoms first:
in high: Tolouse, Flandres, Ayyubids, pagan Prussia etc.
in late for example Holland instead of Gelre, Flandre and Bavaria
and also here is audience in the court of Friedrich Barbarossa, emperor of Holy Roman Empire :smile:
Angryminer
13-02-2005, 11:11
That looks great!
:go:
Angryminer
SInce I came across serious problems while testing my whole mod with Angryminer's GoG 1.4 here's limited version of it, including ONLY 3 quests
unite_holy roman empire.ini
unite_HRE.ini
unite_rome.ini
two are to unite HRE (one for German kingdoms, one for Italian states), third is to unite Rome.
It should work, it is imperfect because game doesn't support things like changing title of kingdom...
I will try to eork some things out a bit better, here is a first poor version. I hope it wil work for you.
After unziping save it in Knights of honor root directory
Black Sea Studios\Knights of Honor\ - new folder defs should emerge
both quests are more for later stages of game (Roman or Holy Roman empire can't be reunited by 2-3 provinces, but needs a bit more :smile:) hope you'll enjoy it :go:
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