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HappyAdolf
03-02-2005, 15:46
Today I read VERY bad news on startrek.com!
http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/article/9469.html

Sign the petition if you don't want the Series to be cancelled!
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?NX01

Webmaster
03-02-2005, 16:11
do i c a cross posting, HA ?
good 4 u the webmaster loves enterprise ;)

Sentra
03-02-2005, 17:20
Forget it. Your plea won't help. The ratings are down, producing new episodes would be a financial loss, and Star Trek needs to rest a bit. The news did surprise me, but I feel it's healthier for the whole franchise if Star Trek takes a brief break.

Webmaster
03-02-2005, 17:30
but its worth trying!
enterprise isn't a mainstream series like sg1 or andromeda ... which i consider as crap

Anguille2
03-02-2005, 17:36
but its worth trying!
enterprise isn't a mainstream series like sg1 or andromeda ... which i consider as crap
I completly agree on that...i don't watch either of those. However I'd like to see the new Battlestar Galactica.
It's a shame that Enterprise doesn't end as the others after 7 seasons...it's a good show. Afterwards a break would have been nice with maybe a movie in the making.

Webmaster
03-02-2005, 18:10
galactica rockZ, psycho scifi and chicks ;)

but stargate atlantis is also kewl, much much better than sg1

Moryarity
04-02-2005, 13:35
I like SG1....but I donīt like Galactica....its so stupid..how can Starbuck be a woman :( that was a teriible idea...

Moryarity
04-02-2005, 16:04
Here another petition to sign:

http://www.startrekfans.net/petition

Helen
04-02-2005, 19:25
there's also SaveEnterprise.com (http://saveenterprise.com/)


imho: Galactica and Stargate rocks! :smile: Haven't seen the original BSG, so I have no opinion on it :P

Moryarity
07-02-2005, 13:34
Well..I guess it is difficult to get used to the new BSG, if you know the old ones......it is just like those, that loves ST-TOS and then had a very strange opinion of STTNG.....it will take time to get used to it....

Webmaster
07-02-2005, 13:48
the old apollo has also a role in the new galactica ... and it is complete different than the old ones. i like this psycho component and the kewl effects on space flights and fights

i donated 20 bucks for the enterprise ;)

Sentra
07-02-2005, 20:17
Wow, 20 bucks will fund a whole... er... a whole shining new nail for some background prop that needs to be attached to some background wall... Really an important donation! Well, somewhat...
Ah, whatever!!

:biggrin:

But at least it shows your determination! :wink:

Helen
07-02-2005, 20:26
donated 20 bucks to enterprise?

Webmaster
07-02-2005, 23:47
to the ad campaign printing in the us today which will cost 14500$.
20$ are not much, but if everyone who likes the show spend 20 bucks, the campaign can be printed. the rest of the money will go to the victims of the tsunami.

so it is a good thing for me!

FrankishKnight
08-02-2005, 03:03
Star Trek must end. It has had it's peak. RIP.

Webmaster
08-02-2005, 10:28
so, you didn't see ENT season 3 and 4?

Helen
08-02-2005, 17:54
ah, I see - however I saw a thread where they're trying to gather fans to donate money for a new season. It doesn't sound as bad as you think ;)

link to the thread (http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=3952274&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=7&fpart=1&vc=1)


this is a small faq (written by "Vulcan Soul"), in case someone's interested, or willing to spread the word :)


What's our mission?
When TOS was cancelled in 1968, fans started an unprecedented letter-writing campaign and thus achieved the miracle of bringing back their show. We are bringing the devotion of Star Trek fans for their cause to a new level and starting the fan campaign of the 21st century - actually raising money to fund the continuation of the recently cancelled Star Trek: Enterprise. The cast and crew is 100% behind us, and the Paramount execs have expressed their willingness to listen, however they wanna see that we are capable of pulling this off. In light of the 1968 Star Trek campaign, it would not be the first time fandom is underestimated, so let's show them what we are capable of!

So what is it gonna cost?
John Billingsley (Phlox) has stated the production of one Enterprise episode costs $1.6m. For 22 episodes, like in season 4, that boils down to $35.2m. That sounds like an awful lot of money, but wait! Mass donation is gonna do the trick. 3 million people, the average viewer number of season 4, only need to donate a mere $12, the price of a cheap DVD or CD. 1 million people would need to donate $36 and so on. If celebrities, organizations or wealthier fans contribute accordingly, even less is required!

How much time we have?
Enterprise season 4 is filmed till early March. Reshooting is done till end of March, so the sets won't be torn down till then. So we got about 7 weeks to get this done, and even afterwards not everything is lost!

Who's gonna helm this mission?
Tim Brazeal of the SaveEnterprise campaign (tim@saveenterprise.com) is currently working together with volunteers from this board for this new mission, so we will be able to build on existing infrastructure, reputation and media attention to reach as many people as possible quickly and get the ball rolling for the cause. As you read this, a new site is being set up with a fitting name to serve our cause. Please stay tuned for the official announcement of our new campaign!

What can I do, and with whom can I talk about this?
A lot of help is required. The more people work for this, the higher the probability it'll succeed. Lawyers, web designers, artists, communications people, everyone can contribute something! Please contact chris@saveenterprise.com for your job applications, including the contact details you wish to disclose, your approximate location and what you'd like to do.

This campaign will become more than an attempt to save Enterprise or Star Trek as we know it, but an impressive proof of the dedication and power of fandom. It'll thrive with your ideas and creative support, however things need to be coordinated so no valuable input will be lost. Please contact me at vulcansoul@gmx.net (Saveenterprise address will be avaiable later today) to share your suggestions. I'll be building an idea pool, collecting and sorting your inputs for the campaign.

Spread the word in forums about the new mission, write to web sites and traditional offline media! Let's get started and bring about the largest international fan campaign in history!

This is never gonna work! How you wanna raise $35m when SaveEnterprise has trouble raising enough money for the ad project?
First, many people have expressed already their willingness to donate to fund the show directly, rather than an ad. Second, this new mission is starting after the cancellation has just been announced. The end of the show is imminent and we can count on fan dedication as well as media attention to spread the word quickly and tell people how urgent their help to keep not just Enterprise on the air, but possibly Star Trek as we know it. Third, there are more than 3 million UPN viewers who could donate, but Star Trek fans world-wide. The campaign ought to be in the headlines of Trek and media news sites around the globe. Forth, donation will be safe and provide a win-win scenario for the people who normally hesitate to give their money for a project. A special account will be set up which can only be drawn from with multiple signatures. Many can be donated via PayPal as well as other, conventional ways.
Several options will be considered depending on how much money is raised, including a full season 5, half a season, a mini-series or TV movie. The goal in any case, however, is to produce more Enterprise; the money will be used for the cause. Maybe a symbolic amount of a few million dollars will be enough already to convince TPTB to carry on. If all fails, money will be refunded. You can count on the legal safety of this endeavour. We got a lawyer on board who can answer your further questions, if you got some. Contact attorney@saveenterprise.com for this.

Why donate for a TV show and not for social aid?
It's not an either/or option. Of course the most noble donations are those for humane causes, and I'm sure many of us here are supporting aid organizations and their work.
But independent from that each day people spend alot of money on entertainment products, cinema, superficial things. To use just a little of this money (what equals to one cheap DVD or CD) to keep the show you like on the air, isn't a bad cause then either, is it?

How's Paramount gonna deal with this?
The execs wanna see action, now! The main reason for Enterprise's cancellation was too low ratings, i.e. even with Paramount paying half of the production costs themselves, the show has not turned in enough profit. So money is the issue here, and by offering actual money rather than just fan letters and pledges to keep the show running, we can be alot more convincing to the business people. I think it is important to just offer to finance the production costs with no strings attached, i.e. no creative or legal demands of any kind (co-ownership or licensing options) which would make TPTB nervous and complicate the legal procedure considerably. Of course, the money ought to be used to produce more Enterprise in one of the forms mentioned above.

But still, how is this gonna work?
What if people had listened to the masses who ridiculed explorers who thought a flight to the moon is possible? Or crossing the Atlantic? The very lesson Star Trek has taught us for 39 years is that with faith and dedication and vision (and in this case, just a little money from everyone), everything can be achieved. Despite all obstacles. Think about what Robert F. Kennedy once said -

"There are those that look at things the way they are, and ask why? I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?"


Join the cause!

Helen
25-02-2005, 14:07
Manny Coto chatted on trekunited.com

the transcript can be read here (http://www.trekunited.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=882&st=0)


oh, and just to add.. money's up to $ 42,825.00 - there's even talk about a 3 million contribution [www.trekunited.com]

Webmaster
25-02-2005, 14:27
kewl kewl *g*

Helen
02-03-2005, 00:36
and 3 anonymous donaters donated 3 million - it keeps raising :) [www.saveenterprise.com]