Problems with pirates

[Master Jakel]

I have some problems with pirates kontra what is told about them in the manual. The manual say that pirates can build a piratenest on an island. This never happens in 'continous play' for me? I allways try to search all islands for them but they aren't there.

I tried building a pirate warehouse and some buildings to form a little pirate city in the editor. This worked, but the pirates never produce anything but cheap food. The manual says that I should be able to buy cannons from time to time, but this has not happened in any of my games. And on Charlies homepage I read that the pirates can sell a wide variety of goods, so I'm curious as to how I can make it happen?

Anyone experience the same things?

[Budgie]

The pirates do build own settlements. Maybe only in harder levels?

What the pirates sell are
food (own production)
goods that you've put into their warehouse with the editor (works only when the option "pirates reappear" is selected!)
goods they've stolen from other players' ships

[RoadRunner]

I also observed that the pirates (re-)settle: in "Delusions of a Grandeur" I conquered the pirate island (today, I probably would not do that :wink:), and they settled again after a while...

[Master Jakel]

so they only sell what they steal, sounds like pirate logic to me :cheers: .
But what about the manual claiming that in early stages of the game, before I can build a cannon foundry, I can try purchasing cannons from the pirates? This hints, I think, that the pirates may have some cannons in store which they didn't steal from anyone.

[Budgie]

Ships should not be armed with cannons when they're approaching the pirates' village, says my manual. But it doesn't tell me about buying cannons there.

[Frieden]

I agrree. The manual doesn't tell that.

Bu,after some time, the pirates usually sell some canons...

[RoadRunner]

I think Master Jakel spoke about Charlie's remarks here (http://www.annozone.de/Charlie/Handel/handel_02.html). In some scenarios, you can indeed buy cannons from the pirates - but that was set in the scenario design, and is not a feature of the continuous game. :wink:

BTW the pirates sell more than they steal... I am still curious how they do that... :biggrin:

And... ships can be armed if they approach a pirate's nest. They will only be attacked if the pirates are "at war" with you - provided there are towers nearby. :wink:

[Frieden]

... you can indeed buy cannons from the pirates - but that was set in the scenario design,...

Any idea how I can set this ?

[Budgie]

Sure - I already mentioned it. You put some cannons into their warehouse, set "pirates reappear", and wait until they are for sale.

[Frieden]

Ah yes ..thank you !

(I should create more scenarios ... I become old and forgetful :( )

[Master Jakel]

It happened! A pirate nest appeared in a continues game :)!! Finally I get to pay my protection money and they were long overdue!!

[Frieden]

..or deal with them -> usually there's a fisherhut in their town. Make a trading route and buy 1 unit of food each time.
The prirats enjoy it sometimes (and it's cheaper than paying a tribute :wink: )