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Dobber
07-09-2005, 13:56
I thought this view of the disaster in the wake of Katrina was very interesting!



An Unnatural Disaster: A Hurricane Exposes the Man-Made Disaster of the Welfare State

An Objectivist Review





by Robert Tracinski | The Intellectual Activist

September 2, 2005




It has taken four long days for state and federal officials to figure out how to deal with the disaster in New Orleans. I can't blame them, because it has also taken me four long days to figure out what is going on there. The reason is that the events there make no sense if you think that we are confronting a natural disaster.

If this is just a natural disaster, the response for public officials is obvious: you bring in food, water, and doctors; you send transportation to evacuate refugees to temporary shelters; you send engineers to stop the flooding and rebuild the city's infrastructure. For journalists, natural disasters also have a familiar pattern: the heroism of ordinary people pulling together to survive; the hard work and dedication of doctors, nurses, and rescue workers; the steps being taken to clean up and rebuild.

Public officials did not expect that the first thing they would have to do is to send thousands of armed troops in armored vehicle, as if they are suppressing an enemy insurgency. And journalists--myself included--did not expect that the story would not be about rain, wind, and flooding, but about rape, murder, and looting

But this is not a natural disaster. It is a man-made disaster.

The man-made disaster is not an inadequate or incompetent response by federal relief agencies, and it was not directly caused by Hurricane Katrina. This is where just about every newspaper and television channel has gotten the story wrong.

The man-made disaster we are now witnessing in New Orleans did not happen over the past four days. It happened over the past four decades. Hurricane Katrina merely exposed it to public view.

The man-made disaster is the welfare state.

For the past few days, I have found the news from New Orleans to be confusing. People were not behaving as you would expect them to behave in an emergency--indeed, they were not behaving as they have behaved in other emergencies. That is what has shocked so many people: they have been saying that this is not what we expect from America. In fact, it is not even what we expect from a Third World country.

When confronted with a disaster, people usually rise to the occasion. They work together to rescue people in danger, and they spontaneously organize to keep order and solve problems. This is especially true in America. We are an enterprising people, used to relying on our own initiative rather than waiting around for the government to take care of us. I have seen this a hundred times, in small examples (a small town whose main traffic light had gone out, causing ordinary citizens to get out of their cars and serve as impromptu traffic cops, directing cars through the intersection) and large ones (the spontaneous response of New Yorkers to September 11).

So what explains the chaos in New Orleans?

To give you an idea of the magnitude of what is going on, here is a description from a Washington Times story:

"Storm victims are raped and beaten; fights erupt with flying fists, knives and guns; fires are breaking out; corpses litter the streets; and police and rescue helicopters are repeatedly fired on.

"The plea from Mayor C. Ray Nagin came even as National Guardsmen poured in to restore order and stop the looting, carjackings and gunfire....

"Last night, Gov. Kathleen Babineaux Blanco said 300 Iraq-hardened Arkansas National Guard members were inside New Orleans with shoot-to-kill orders.

"'These troops are...under my orders to restore order in the streets,' she said. 'They have M-16s, and they are locked and loaded. These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will.' "

The reference to Iraq is eerie. The photo that accompanies this article shows National Guard troops, with rifles and armored vests, riding on an armored vehicle through trash-strewn streets lined by a rabble of squalid, listless people, one of whom appears to be yelling at them. It looks exactly like a scene from Sadr City in Baghdad.

What explains bands of thugs using a natural disaster as an excuse for an orgy of looting, armed robbery, and rape? What causes unruly mobs to storm the very buses that have arrived to evacuate them, causing the drivers to drive away, frightened for their lives? What causes people to attack the doctors trying to treat patients at the Super Dome?

Why are people responding to natural destruction by causing further destruction? Why are they attacking the people who are trying to help them?

My wife, Sherri, figured it out first, and she figured it out on a sense-of-life level. While watching the coverage last night on Fox News Channel, she told me that she was getting a familiar feeling. She studied architecture at the Illinois Institute of Chicago, which is located in the South Side of Chicago just blocks away from the Robert Taylor Homes, one of the largest high-rise public housing projects in America. "The projects," as they were known, were infamous for uncontrollable crime and irremediable squalor. (They have since, mercifully, been demolished.)

What Sherri was getting from last night's television coverage was a whiff of the sense of life of "the projects." Then the "crawl"--the informational phrases flashed at the bottom of the screen on most news channels--gave some vital statistics to confirm this sense: 75% of the residents of New Orleans had already evacuated before the hurricane, and of the 300,000 or so who remained, a large number were from the city's public housing projects. Jack Wakeland then gave me an additional, crucial fact: early reports from CNN and Fox indicated that the city had no plan for evacuating all of the prisoners in the city's jails--so they just let many of them loose. There is no doubt a significant overlap between these two populations--that is, a large number of people in the jails used to live in the housing projects, and vice versa.

There were many decent, innocent people trapped in New Orleans when the deluge hit--but they were trapped alongside large numbers of people from two groups: criminals--and wards of the welfare state, people selected, over decades, for their lack of initiative and self-induced helplessness. The welfare wards were a mass of sheep--on whom the incompetent administration of New Orleans unleashed a pack of wolves.

All of this is related, incidentally, to the apparent incompetence of the city government, which failed to plan for a total evacuation of the city, despite the knowledge that this might be necessary. But in a city corrupted by the welfare state, the job of city officials is to ensure the flow of handouts to welfare recipients and patronage to political supporters--not to ensure a lawful, orderly evacuation in case of emergency.

No one has really reported this story, as far as I can tell. In fact, some are already actively distorting it, blaming President Bush, for example, for failing to personally ensure that the Mayor of New Orleans had drafted an adequate evacuation plan. The worst example is an execrable piece from the Toronto Globe and Mail, by a supercilious Canadian who blames the chaos on American "individualism." But the truth is precisely the opposite: the chaos was caused by a system that was the exact opposite of individualism.

What Hurricane Katrina exposed was the psychological consequences of the welfare state. What we consider "normal" behavior in an emergency is behavior that is normal for people who have values and take the responsibility to pursue and protect them. People with values respond to a disaster by fighting against it and doing whatever it takes to overcome the difficulties they face. They don't sit around and complain that the government hasn't taken care of them. They don't use the chaos of a disaster as an opportunity to prey on their fellow men.

But what about criminals and welfare parasites? Do they worry about saving their houses and property? They don't, because they don't own anything. Do they worry about what is going to happen to their businesses or how they are going to make a living? They never worried about those things before. Do they worry about crime and looting? But living off of stolen wealth is a way of life for them.

The welfare state--and the brutish, uncivilized mentality it sustains and encourages--is the man-made disaster that explains the moral ugliness that has swamped New Orleans. And that is the story that no one is reporting.

Angryminer
07-09-2005, 14:14
That, to phrase it short, was propably the worst coverage of the Orleans-desaster to be read around the globe.

One thing that catches the eye is the subtitle "An Objectivist Review" together with the amount of descriptive adjectives in the text - something that doesn't fit together in any text. That being said I don't want to comment on the contexts of the text because I think of it as an opinion. I don't share the opinion of the author, but nevertheless I respect his freedom of opinion and his right to express this opinion.

Angryminer

Moryarity
07-09-2005, 14:46
I do not know, what to say.........I think Katrina showed, that America made a lot of mistakes in that disaster...not evaquating people. not bringing in food and water..not burrieng the victims...worse than in any third world country...and that, although it is such a large, and powerfull country..Katrina showed, that the US have sever problems and maybe such clima katastrophies will remind them of finally sign Kyoto protovol ans such thing...to lower the riscs of such things...but what the other says is simply humbug......:angry:

Dobber
07-09-2005, 16:03
I received that via email, and thought it was interesting(only word I could think to describe it). You know I kind of cringe everytime I see the word objectivist.
Not all of us in the US are objectivist, and I hope you don't think we all feel this way.

If the government will just help restore order so the private sector and the charitable organizations can gain access to the victims this will all be taken care of much faster and more efficiently.

Moryarity
08-09-2005, 11:08
Well, I thin kthe main problem is, that the governement first did nothing..and then they were overextended with the situation completly..so that know..they have armoured troops with "shoot-to-kill" orders..to get restoring works done.......

Traveller
10-09-2005, 10:37
I think this IS interesting! I don't know how much of it is true, but it's still interesting though...

Btw it's a little strange - this article reminded me of the situation in Bulgaria some weeks ago, during the third floods. Particularily for the situation in the town of Ihtiman. There is a large gypsy population that lives there and, of course, after the floods they were all evacuated. But here the army came with armoured vehicles, to save the people, not to shoot them. Anyway, all of the gypsies were evacuated in the city schools, where they would stay for about a week until other houses could be found for them. And when the city officials came after a week (the gypsies were already moved out of the schools), guess what did they saw! They saw something, which would look more like from the war in Kosovo or Iraq, not like from a "refugee shelter". Everything, which could be taken, was taken; everything, which could be sold (especially the iron from the school desks -> for scrap), was gone; wood from the parquet floor and desks were pulled out and "evacuated", ready for the fireplace in the winter. The schools were completely ruined and now it's still not sure if the kids could start their school-year on September 15. I think there was a saying "Feed the dog, so that it could bark against you". Or was it "You give it your finger, it bites off your hand"? So, in some form I know what is it like... Although I didn't knew it's in a such large scale in America, with armed robberies, rapes etc. Maybe there are worst cases than our gypsies after all...

Dobber
10-09-2005, 16:31
I can somewhat understand the shoot to kill orders, the city of New Orleans(or the State Of Louisiana) did not evacuate all of the inmates from the jail(s)/prison(s) in the New Orleans area. And after the flooding was getting so bad, they just opened the doors and let them go free, released back into society. This bad element was terrorizing relief efforts and terrorizing people waiting to be rescued, thus the shoot to kill order.

Richard
10-09-2005, 23:52
In my opinion, this article might have some good points like that there are some criminal and the such, but Bush and his administration had their own foult too. They didn't act quickly, nor sended orders to evacuate when they should had have. Also after the thing happened all they did was go around in helicocters instead of sending food and aid during the first 2-3 days.
But the thing that I find the most inrritating is the outrageous gas prices, almost $4.00!!! here in NJ!!. I mean I know there is a great need for it in the areas affected, but what the hell it has to do with the prices up here? Are the companies taking advantage of the situation??

Dobber
11-09-2005, 03:38
A lot of the refineries are in the area that was damaged, their inoperation cuts down on the supply.

Angryminer
11-09-2005, 11:30
Orleans was the Oil market of america. Now this oil market is no more open most oil has to be purchased abroad, usually in Rotterdam. Due to the extreme demand in Rotterdam (US and Europe) the situation is "narrow".
But 4$ the gallon isn't too much. Here in germany prices went up to 6,89 USD per gallon (1,47€ per litre).

Angryminer

Moryarity
12-09-2005, 09:25
But the thing that I find the most inrritating is the outrageous gas prices, almost $4.00!!! here in NJ!!. I mean I know there is a great need for it in the areas affected, but what the hell it has to do with the prices up here? Are the companies taking advantage of the situation??


Well you shouldnīt complain....in Europe we have more problems with the US buying and buying oil just to store it , as they did the last few years..it exploded our prices :nono: as was said above......maybe the US should also start building cars, which donīt need 15- 20 liter/100km.... :wink: but 3-5 as we have them.....but in the US it is possible to sell such cars, because the oil price is so low.....but it is bad for the environment..maybe if the oil price is a little higher also americans would buy cars, that are better for the environment..

Elvain
12-09-2005, 10:41
Americans never cared of environment and now when the nature is punnishing them they don't know what to do.

It was terrible what happened to New Orleans and the area around, but hopefully this will turn Americans to think about their environmental "policy" - not only state policy (laws etc.) but also normal USAmericans, I hope this will make them care about damages they do to nature, about lesser oil consumption of american cars, about behaviour of big companies.
But they are affraid it wil make their goods even more expensive if they will have to care about something so "useless" like environment...
The nature just takes back what they have taken from it...

OFF TOPIC:
one more thing which is not very connected to Katrina, but Katrina just revealed it...
A Nation that "brings order" to various parts of world is unable to evacuate own city - damaged by such disaster - in order and without violence. It won't happen in NO muslim nor European city that some people will shoot on police helicopters evacuating hospitals! :angry:
Of course it happens that some individuals robb houses when something like this happens, but it never happened in any disaster in Europe or nowhere in the world that gangs shoot on people who were being evacated by officials.
After Tsunami on Sri Lanka even 2 fighting fractions were in peace, at least untill the island was in shock. The same with Indonesian province of Aceh where rebels fought the governmental forces...
that really is something what "should" be exported by US armed forces :angry: with "pax Americana"
First, bring order into your own cities and then care of the world around!!!

Angryminer
12-09-2005, 11:09
After the Tsunami the US Army had over three thousand armed soldiers deployed in the various destroyed zones within 36 hours. Despite no one called for armed forces, only for help-organizations.
Now the own people call for help and takes more than 72 hours to bring in at least the first help. Even european help wasn't allowed, though rescue-teams were ready within two days.
I really have problems to understand how this can happen without intention.

Angryminer

conquestare legionare
13-09-2005, 18:14
Bush handled this situation with such ineffency and uncareingness , Its almost impossabile thinking that it struck a superior power on earth... .Welll what happens when the cat is gone? the rats dance on the table, so did the crimnals! i can understand that they might have looted some houses under the diaster but shooting at rescue operators and hospitals ? wtf? . They really must hate there community, that shows another unwanted hatch in Bushs policy. He simply didnt care because the people were poor, he surely thought something like this "Ohh its poor people , who cares , its better . It will only decrease the coasts and support we give out. I know it sounds very well non senseable , but thats close to what his expression and reaction was. "it was devestateing" is what he said while flying over new orleans, while people were starving and drowning , get your fat cowboy *** and do something, but he didnt do anything before it was too late.

Richard
13-09-2005, 21:16
Damn $6 box a gallon?? Wow I shouldn't be compleining :silly: . And I didn't know most of the refineries were in that area.

Elvain Not all americans think like you said. There are lots of people that have protested and have made petitions to stop greedy people from continuing the way they are destroying the enviroment in order to make a few extra dollars. In some cases it worked, but most of the time congress just farted in their faces and why? Coz most of them have the big business and reforming would make them lose some money.
I agree that such cars as the hammer and the other big cars are a joke.. Consume alot of gas and help in pollution, but that's the big business, that's what rich americans want and the car companies won't stop making them coz they don't care about enviroment only about the $$$ and Goverment can't make laws prohiviting the construction of such cars.

A better way to make people stop polluting so much the enviroment is by continuing working and improving technologies such as electric cars and natural gas cars and making them cheaper so the average people can buy one. But the bad thing about it is that then the oil/gas companies will be $#$## and this will make some nasty things like more uneploged people, and oil producing countries lossing money, and that is why the idea of non gas cars is far off.

Traveller
14-09-2005, 11:08
Yeah, mentioning cars, it's interesting why most of the cars are still oil-fueled. The hell, there's already an engine, fueled with water! But, hey, water is a lot and oil's limited. So if you "produce" oil, you'll get more money than if you drive with water. Or with simple electricity. Or whatever. That's one of the things I don't like in America - it's all about business. There's even a saying: "Whatever an American is talking to you, be sure it's about money". Ha, now even charity's business! Crazy world and crazy "super-powers"...

Richard
14-09-2005, 21:33
Interesting and what waste does the water fueled cars give up? Steam?

Angryminer
14-09-2005, 21:40
Hydrogen fueled cars exhaust water, which can be turned into hydrogen using electric energy (note: no harmful substances involved, only water, oxygen and hydrogen). That's propably what Traveller meant.
The prototype cars travel around germany and europe since years. A lot of busses are already hydrogen fueled.

Angryminer

Elvain
15-09-2005, 10:10
Damn $6 box a gallon?? Wow I shouldn't be compleining :silly: . And I didn't know most of the refineries were in that area. damn! When I was in America, oil was cheaper than water!!! :eek: :wtf: (well I know it was before 9/11, but still, it's crazy. I would understand it in ME where water is rare, but in USA?)
that's also one of reasons why "nasty" americans don't care how is their cars' consumption. If the oil is more expensive, such as in Europe, the people would care and would try to find also alternative sources and fuels

I agree that such cars as the hammer and the other big cars are a joke.. Consume alot of gas and help in pollution, but that's the big business, that's what rich americans want and the car companies won't stop making them coz they don't care about enviroment only about the $$$ and Goverment can't make laws prohiviting the construction of such cars.

A better way to make people stop polluting so much the enviroment is by continuing working and improving technologies such as electric cars and natural gas cars and making them cheaper so the average people can buy one. But the bad thing about it is that then the oil/gas companies will be $#$## and this will make some nasty things like more uneploged people, and oil producing countries lossing money, and that is why the idea of non gas cars is far off.
wo are oil producing countries: Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Russia etc.. those are the biggest producers (not mentionsing USA who is one of the biggest producers too, but also is the major importer)
The first man who should be lucky that muslims are cut off their major money source shuold be the one who fights them: president of the USA!
USA is the major supporter of it's biggets enemies? Why? He wants more power over his own people or is there any other reason?
Yes, one more which fits to european governments:
prize of oil in Europe is so high due to very high taxes. Over a half of money from each litre of oil goes to state in taxes (at least in my country), it is one of the best money resources for governments.
But, look at the paradox. They are - eventhough we always criticise them, they still are waaaay better than american politics - however supporting alternative sources of energy and alternative fuels, because they are not that damn dumb like Bush and comp. that they realized that oil is limited source and once it disappears in 20-50 years, we'll need something else.
But why do they care? Is it because european politics are better than american?

I say no. Americans are not loud enough. Why? They have chap gas so they don't need to care and seek the alternative. It's very easy.
The only way out of it in America(in gas problem) is more expensive oil: to save America. Bush or congress can do it, but they can be sure they won't be re-elected.
what is more important: the future or their seats?

PS: the problem about ecolliogical laws is the same. Be louder, especialy now. Be loud and make dumb americans thing about it. And maybe congressmen will realise they should care of ecology to be re-elected :wink:

Moryarity
15-09-2005, 10:33
Yesterday an interview was in German television with a couple who made there wedding hollidays in New Orleans.They had to stay in the superdome for 6 days...people who tried to leave were shot by soldiers....

In Germany, if people are evacuated in a stadium there are field beds on the field..but in Superdome people were not allowed to go on the grass, because it was new :eek: incredible..people were forced to stay on the ranks and were not allowed to sleep on the grass in such a situation because it was new :nono: thats ridiculous..and if they tried to leave the stadium, they were shot.....criminals from the jails where also put in the stadium..so there were gangs and robbery, rape and even murder :eek: how could something like this happen?