Richard
03-01-2006, 22:24
Well the new year has arrived and still no sign of SF taking any decicion...... I have waited more than enougth time and Cant and WILL NOt wait anymore. I bought this great game, because I had bought other SF products before and I as a customer was satisfied with their products. All of this changed, however, after What they did with 1503. I lost some confdence on Sf, but when Koh came out I thought things would be improved again.How wrong I was, just after the fisrt couple of months after the game was released Sunflower basically ended all support for this gamesed.I will quote Elvains words:
1) Sunflowers is responsible for beta testing (as I found in my manual to Knights of Honor). Beta testing was made so badly that a month after a release it was clear that a patch is necessary immediately and in 30 november 2004, the patch was released.
2) The first patch was meant to be the only official support to Knights of Honor. Sunflowers to support their game whole 3 months and no longer! (release of KoH september 2004, the last planned support 30 november 2004!)
3) publicity of Knights of Honor:
pre- and after- release publicity of KoH was so "perfect" that one of the most often reactions here and on Paradox forums was something like this: "What a great game! How is it possible that I have never heard of it?" or "Thanks you told me about this game. Nowhere I could find that game like this even exist," mostly it was written by people who were looking for a game like this for long time what is really strange.
4) the publisher decided not to publish the game in the biggest gaming market in the world. Let me compare this to imaginary situation that BMW would decide to distribute their cars only in Africa and Asia leaving Europe and USA away
5) 2nd patch policy.(community poll about the 2nd patch (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=3509) After Sunflowers finaly changed their mind and released the game in North America (we can only ask how was it possible that game wasn't planned to be released there), they finally accepted the possibility of further suport. (Note, customers in North America recieved yet NO support!) in april 2004 a list of changes requested by community was summarized by community members and sent to Sunflowers. Then long nothing happened. Then there was long negotiations between Sunflowers and Black Sea Studios (during time when Black Sea Studios had first holidays after 3 years) and when BSS stated they have clear concept for the 2nd patch the community waits over 2 months for official statement of Sunflowers that has only 2 possibilities: yes - make the patch - or not.
SF basically never intended to support this game, So my question is, Why in the ****ing hell did they accept to be the publishers, if they didn't like the game in the first place? If they don't like the game,Why not sell the Copy Rights to a publisher that will support it?
Then they lied to us, saying they were diciding wheter or not to support a 2nd patch. About 4 months have passed without any concrete answer, only false hopes and more lies and frankly I'm tired of all this B-U-L-LS-H-I-T!
I as their Customer, the one that gives them money, feel cheated,robbed, and lied at, and I for one never, ever in my life intend to use,Buy or help promot, by telling friends, any SF products,that would be things they make or publish,as long as these bad/terrible,unjust or what ever word you like best, polices continue in place.
I here by boycott all SF products and encourange all other Customers, that like me where lied at and Robbed to do the same. I also Encourage you too spread the word to friends, and let them know that SF isn't a reliable company, That SF does not provide any support for their games and that SF lies to their customers.
I hate that I will leave this community in this way, but someone had to do it. I had great times here with many great members, Including Hawk Knight, Xuca, Traveler, Dobber, Angryminer, Elvain,Navatar,Kuno and many others. To you all i said, good luck and good bye.
A Word to SF:
"You used to be cool man, you have changed."
You may ban me from your forums, you may erase this thread, I don't give a F@#$. You deserv to lose lots of customers, LOTS of them, for been such A-ss Holes, liers.
A Word for BSS:
I hope that you have learn your lesson, next time think twice before making SF your publisher. They are giving you a terrible name and you will lose customers thanks to their terrible support, just my 2 cents.
1) Sunflowers is responsible for beta testing (as I found in my manual to Knights of Honor). Beta testing was made so badly that a month after a release it was clear that a patch is necessary immediately and in 30 november 2004, the patch was released.
2) The first patch was meant to be the only official support to Knights of Honor. Sunflowers to support their game whole 3 months and no longer! (release of KoH september 2004, the last planned support 30 november 2004!)
3) publicity of Knights of Honor:
pre- and after- release publicity of KoH was so "perfect" that one of the most often reactions here and on Paradox forums was something like this: "What a great game! How is it possible that I have never heard of it?" or "Thanks you told me about this game. Nowhere I could find that game like this even exist," mostly it was written by people who were looking for a game like this for long time what is really strange.
4) the publisher decided not to publish the game in the biggest gaming market in the world. Let me compare this to imaginary situation that BMW would decide to distribute their cars only in Africa and Asia leaving Europe and USA away
5) 2nd patch policy.(community poll about the 2nd patch (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=3509) After Sunflowers finaly changed their mind and released the game in North America (we can only ask how was it possible that game wasn't planned to be released there), they finally accepted the possibility of further suport. (Note, customers in North America recieved yet NO support!) in april 2004 a list of changes requested by community was summarized by community members and sent to Sunflowers. Then long nothing happened. Then there was long negotiations between Sunflowers and Black Sea Studios (during time when Black Sea Studios had first holidays after 3 years) and when BSS stated they have clear concept for the 2nd patch the community waits over 2 months for official statement of Sunflowers that has only 2 possibilities: yes - make the patch - or not.
SF basically never intended to support this game, So my question is, Why in the ****ing hell did they accept to be the publishers, if they didn't like the game in the first place? If they don't like the game,Why not sell the Copy Rights to a publisher that will support it?
Then they lied to us, saying they were diciding wheter or not to support a 2nd patch. About 4 months have passed without any concrete answer, only false hopes and more lies and frankly I'm tired of all this B-U-L-LS-H-I-T!
I as their Customer, the one that gives them money, feel cheated,robbed, and lied at, and I for one never, ever in my life intend to use,Buy or help promot, by telling friends, any SF products,that would be things they make or publish,as long as these bad/terrible,unjust or what ever word you like best, polices continue in place.
I here by boycott all SF products and encourange all other Customers, that like me where lied at and Robbed to do the same. I also Encourage you too spread the word to friends, and let them know that SF isn't a reliable company, That SF does not provide any support for their games and that SF lies to their customers.
I hate that I will leave this community in this way, but someone had to do it. I had great times here with many great members, Including Hawk Knight, Xuca, Traveler, Dobber, Angryminer, Elvain,Navatar,Kuno and many others. To you all i said, good luck and good bye.
A Word to SF:
"You used to be cool man, you have changed."
You may ban me from your forums, you may erase this thread, I don't give a F@#$. You deserv to lose lots of customers, LOTS of them, for been such A-ss Holes, liers.
A Word for BSS:
I hope that you have learn your lesson, next time think twice before making SF your publisher. They are giving you a terrible name and you will lose customers thanks to their terrible support, just my 2 cents.