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Dobber
30-01-2006, 20:47
For all of us who feel only the deepest love and affection for the way computers have enhanced our lives, read on. At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared the computer industry with the auto industry and stated, "If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, we would all be driving $25.00 cars that got 1,000 miles to the gallon."

In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press release stating: If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be driving cars with the following characteristics (and I just love this part):

1. For no reason whatsoever, your car would crash twice a day.

2. Every time they repainted the lines in the road, you would have to buy a new car.

3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason. You would have to pull to the side of the road, close all of the windows, shut off the car, restart it, and reopen the windows before you could continue. For some reason you would simply accept this.

4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn would cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which case you would have to reinstall the engine.

5. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, was reliable, five times as fast and twice as easy to drive - but would run on only five percent of the roads.

6. The oil, water temperature, and alternator warning lights would all be replaced by a single "This Car Has Performed an Illegal Operation" warning light.

7. The airbag system would ask "Are you sure?" before deploying.

8. Occasionally, for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously lifted the door handle, turned the key and grabbed hold of the radio antenna.

9. Every time a new car was introduced car buyers would have to learn how to drive all over again because none of the controls would operate in the same manner as the old car.

10. You'd have to press the "Start" button to turn the engine off.

Helen
30-01-2006, 21:08
:rofl:

that was funny, and sooo true :silly:

NaVatar
30-01-2006, 21:22
Hahahaha! Great Dobber.:go:

Webmaster
30-01-2006, 21:35
is old but nice! comes from the windows 95 and 98 times ;)

and hey ... today modern cars have a start/stop engine button *g*

Xuca
30-01-2006, 22:35
Windows sux!!! Too bad I'm addicted to games... :nono:

Webmaster
30-01-2006, 23:04
but what are the alternatives?
linux is crap on desktop machines!
os x ... a ressource killer ...

a combination of those three would be nice.
security and stability from linux.
usability and easy setup from windows.
design from os x.

RoadRunner
31-01-2006, 09:29
I think Windows (especially XP) is better than it seems to be, especially if we speak about home users. Almost everyone complains about it, but almost everyone uses it every day and has almost no problems with it. Most problems arise only if you start to "tweak" your system or to "overclock" it, or if the user starts to "enhance" his system not know what he is doing. (If I start tinkering at my car with my knowledge about it, I am pretty sure that my satisfaction with it will soon go significantly down. :biggrin:)

Honour to whom honour is due: Windows runs on almost every PC, nearly everyone can install it without any problems, and it is more or less self-explaining (ok, that is easy in a PC world where Windows has a monopoly and everyone knows Windows if he ever saw a PC running).

I love the idea of open software, and I'd like to have Linux on my PC. But if I really start thinking about the "killer argument" for Linux, I constantly fail finding it: At home, I want to use the internet and I want to play. No problem with Windows - but with Linux, most games would not run... :sad:

Xuca
31-01-2006, 14:12
I'm keeping windows for only one game(which is, ironically, made by M$), and I'm thinking of a dual-boot(or however it's called), so that I can use Linux, and switch to Win only when I want to play. I'm just too busy these days to try it...

Angryminer
31-01-2006, 16:57
Saying linux is hard to install is surely true for some distributions like Gentoo and Debian, though still you only have to press a series of buttons as discribed setp-by-step in the handbook. Other distributions like SuSe offer the ease-of-use of MS's installer and can even be told to use a similar use-and-feel as the MS desktops.
GNU/Linux offers you a lot of possibilities. When you know what you want this is great, because you get what you want. But when you don't know what you want you'll be rather confused with all the possibilities.

Windows will stay on my harddrive as long as win2k or XpSP1 is still up-to-date. After that I will delete windows because I deny all MS EULAs from Xp SP2 onwards.

Seeing that no good games are made anymore I don't think I'll miss windows that much. Also wine is moving towards it's first stable release, which might open forther prospects on the gaming-aspects.

Angryminer

Xuca
31-01-2006, 21:19
Saying linux is hard to install is surely true for some distributions like Gentoo and Debian, though still you only have to press a series of buttons as discribed setp-by-step in the handbook. Other distributions like SuSe offer the ease-of-use of MS's installer and can even be told to use a similar use-and-feel as the MS desktops.
GNU/Linux offers you a lot of possibilities. When you know what you want this is great, because you get what you want. But when you don't know what you want you'll be rather confused with all the possibilities.

Windows will stay on my harddrive as long as win2k or XpSP1 is still up-to-date. After that I will delete windows because I deny all MS EULAs from Xp SP2 onwards.

Seeing that no good games are made anymore I don't think I'll miss windows that much. Also wine is moving towards it's first stable release, which might open forther prospects on the gaming-aspects.

Angryminer
Hey, Angryminer, is Fedora good for the start?

Webmaster
31-01-2006, 21:27
fedora is simple ... but why do you want to use linux as desktop system?
for just emailing, surfing and officestuff it's ok ... check out unbuntu for this ... but for higher task you should what you want and which tools provide such features you need.

Angryminer
31-01-2006, 21:49
I began with RedHat, the predecessor of Fedora. But I'd suggest others to enter the GNU/Linux world with SuSe. It's really easy to use but yet as powerful as any other distribution.
That being said I should also say that when you ask 4 linux-admins what the best distribution is, you usually get 7 opinions.
Try one out, fail, try a second, succeed, be happy. :wink:

Angryminer

Doux
31-01-2006, 22:00
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Windows will stay on my harddrive as long as win2k or XpSP1 is still up-to-date. After that I will delete windows because I deny all MS EULAs from Xp SP2 onwards.
(...)
Angryminer
Why do you deny those EULA's from SP2 and onward, Angryminer?
For safety, SP1 isn't really safe anymore as far as I know.

Angryminer
31-01-2006, 22:09
1. SP2 isn't safe either.
Actually no OS is safe. Some are safer, some are less safe, but ultimately the user decides how safe the OS is.
2. Since SP2 the EULA contains a paragraph where you accept that Microsoft has insight on all data stored on your computer.
Perhaps I'm the only one who doesn't accept this, but I don't miss anything and somewhere someone has to start.

Angryminer

Doux
31-01-2006, 22:14
1. Well, SP2 is safer, that's for sure, for most users.
2. Do you have a link or something that I could read that part of the EULA that grants Microsoft permission to view all of your data too (since I already accepted..)?

Angryminer
31-01-2006, 23:01
I took some looks at the XP SP2 EULA but sources differ. I don't know why, but there are obviously several EULAs around, different in the specific wording. Some sources quote the automatic update feature as being able to always notify MS of the data on you computer and able to modify it and others (as currently on microsoft.com) state that wether the update software starts is only based on your decision, though enabled by default.
This is just one parapgraph. But it shows that sources differ. So I can't get something trustworthy together in a senseful amount of time.
The EULA can be found on your harddrive. Perhaps you want to take some looks into it, as they differ from country to country (for example, MS is not eligable for any damage done by the software or the contained bugs in all states beside germany and, restricted, austria).

Angryminer

Webmaster
31-01-2006, 23:17
using windows XP without SP2 is careless !!!
regardless to say using a firewall/router and virus scanner is needed, too

Xuca
01-02-2006, 12:45
My Windows was faulty since the day I bought it. I managed to fix the problem, but some similar problems happened again. Few months ago I tried to upgrade to SP2, followed all the instructions, and ended up with having to format my HD. That's why I want to get rid of Windows. I don't play much games anymore, so I think I should try Linux.

Webmaster
01-02-2006, 13:55
first try a live cd ... like unbuntu or knoppix ... if you like it, you can add a bual boot linux

Xuca
01-02-2006, 17:38
Ok, I'll give it a try.