Franks Fay, read this!

[Sir Jack]

Nice :D to hear and see all the changes :go: since I was here.

I had seen that you can recruite more than 5 marshalls.

And we can upgrade the castles to 12 levels.

Realy good ! :go: :hello:

I also will find it better, when each castle will have an other shape and style in the close view.
In real no castle was like the other.:king:

[Henrik]

Originally posted by Frank Fay
No they wont....

we have now 12 levels of development and different castle shapes and different styles of castles (arabic, western and eastern)...

so if you ask me, plenty of diversity....

That's really nice Frank :go: - i'm really looking forward to see some screenshots of the different castle shapes and building styles :)

[Frank Fay]

I also will find it better, when each castle will have an other shape and style in the close view.

In Close View we have a few different styles but not that much as in World View.

You will ask now, why? The world view IS the main game view and in Close You you do battles. Also the Close View is loose representation of World View, but not an exact match.

We wanted to thave the board game metapher in WV.

[Elewyn]

No they wont....

we have now 12 levels of development and different castle shapes and different styles of castles (arabic, western and eastern)... Thank you for this,
but I'm sorry Frank, here is again one of my bothering questions.

f.e. here (http://www.knights-of-honor.net//english/screenshot.php?screenshot=0063&all=0076|0075|0074|0073|0064|0062|0063|0061|0060#) and here (http://www.knights-of-honor.net//english/screenshot.php?screenshot=0061&all=0076|0075|0074|0073|0064|0062|0063|0061|0060) we can see two diferent own shapes of western style. Does that mean we have 12 levels of development in each shape? Probably yes, because those levels make probably no changes with the shape.
Another question was already asked and concerns to this. Do the towns/castles look different in each of entry periods, or, as said before, some levels are available only in certain periods like f.e.
in early we can have castle/town level 1 to 8
in high we can have castle/town level 3 to 10
in late we can have castle/town level 4 to 12

and does the system you have (not this what I wrote above, but some system of 12 development levels) apply for each western, eastern and arabic castles/towns? If yes, that means you made 36 different castle levels (or maybe little less if levels 1&2 look the same in all styles) for at least 2 shapes of castles? so then around 70castles!!!!:eek: That's great work, guys:cheers:

Important note: THIS IS ALL MY GUESS!!!!!

[Angryminer]

"in early we can have castle/town level 1 to 8
in high we can have castle/town level 3 to 10
in late we can have castle/town level 4 to 12"

We don't have a time-counter, but we have a tech-tree. So it isn't measurable for the player in which era he plays.
I think it is quite obvious that there won't be those restriction like "in early we can have castle/town level 1 to 8" etc. because we advance through the eras without knowing.
And the existance of a tech-tree tells us, that high castle-levels won't be for free (that's the sense of a tech-tree, isn't it?).

Please correct me if I got something wrong.

Angryminer

[Elewyn]

I agree with you, Angryminer, except one thing:
We don't have a time-counter, but we have a tech-tree. So it isn't measurable for the player in which era he plays.
I think it is quite obvious that there won't be those restriction (...) because we advance through the eras without knowing.
But it's caused by my thought that when we start to play in early era, we'll play in that era till the end of game. That was the reason, why I divided it in that way.

We probably need devs statement here...

PS: here (http://elewyn.album.cz/castles/) are 3 different castles (A, B, C) each with some development levels (1, 1a, 2, 2a, 3...) as I found it on screenshots...

[Quivis]

Nice :cheers: I can't wait

[Sir Turylon]

In response to Elewyn. Perhaps the devs are using a similair concept that was used in AOE2. You progress through the tech trees and as you reach certain stages, the buildings in that particular city are "upgraded" or "improved" or "renovated" to the newer advancements. Par example. Take a tech say.. tiled roofs. This would upgrade all the buildings in that city to include tiled roofs. (silly and simple example, but gets the point across) If what the devs have said holds no secret agendas (sly devs), it could be that the alterations you see are merely "upgraded" base structures.


oh, also. I was looking at castle upgrades. I think I saw two wall upgrades, one was for crenuales (sp?) and another was for wood shelters for the battlements.

btw, kudos on the moats.. very nice looking. (as seen in)
Moat in closeup (http://www.knights-of-honor.net//gfx/screenshots/scr_koh_0095.jpg)

[Henrik]

Originally posted by Elewyn
I agree with you, Angryminer, except one thing:

But it's caused by my thought that when we start to play in early era, we'll play in that era till the end of game. That was the reason, why I divided it in that way.

We probably need devs statement here...

PS: here (http://elewyn.album.cz/castles/) are 3 different castles (A, B, C) each with some development levels (1, 1a, 2, 2a, 3...) as I found it on screenshots...

That's a nice little colection of screenshots you have gathered there Elewyn :) - while i was looking through the the screens i was wondering whether or not the screenshots of the castles showed all the three time periods - especially the castle named: castle C5 could look like something from the late period.

[Elewyn]

while i was looking through the the screens i was wondering whether or not the screenshots of the castles showed all the three time periods - especially the castle named: castle C5 could look like something from the late period.
That is very likely right.

But we won't know it untill the devs tell us. It's hard for me to say it (far harder to be), but let's be patient...

[Frank Fay]

The castles, let's better call them town, do not change via the periods. They have just different levels.

[Henrik]

Originally posted by Frank Fay
The castles, let's better call them town, do not change via the periods. They have just different levels.

So i'll guess this means that Elewyn's awesome collection of castles simply shows a castle's different stages of development.

[Sir Turylon]

Originally posted by Frank Fay
The castles, let's better call them town, do not change via the periods. They have just different levels.

yeah, thought so.