LoTR 3 is starting to sound really... disappointing...

[dearmad]

From the designers....

1. Ammo is not limited. Minding the ammo supplies of troops was a detail that would have generally hindered gameplay, especially if you are trying to mind multiple battles.

2. Unfortunately (and I almost dread answering this), moats are not being used. This is one of those cases where it was something we really wanted to do and even planned to do. However, when we really got into it, moats presented a host of difficulties we just didn't foresee. There were issues with adding them into random maps, having them look good, having the AI be able to account for them (or not), having animations to deal with them, and more. Ultimately everything could have been solved, but it was taking too much time away form other things that needed to get done.

5. No ladders can't be pushed off walls. (This is a more complicated than it sounds.)

4. "Ambush" is essentially attacking another player without declaring war first.
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I can't believe they decided to sacrifice gameplay for their vaunted 3d graphics... It was just "too hard," to do a moat [in 3d] and didn't look good [in 3d] so we didn't do it...

-sigh-:rolleyes: 3d, as I've said before, is NOT always better than 2d!

And their graphics don't even look that good... what advantage is being able to rotate the map if it all looks silly anyway?

I guess I'm just really sad about the direction they went with the game- I'm STILL a little hopeful for it, but find myself much more hopeful about KoH than LoTR now.

[Lord Sandman]

Completelly agree!!

[Angryminer]

Guess why we are here and not there (at the LotR-forums). ;)

Angryminer

[dearmad]

Well there appear to be a lot more people here than on the LoTR3 boards- these boars are easier to navigate, but I don't think that's the only reason- LoTR3 has had really NO publicity compared to its predecessors.:confused:

[Nike]

I know it sounds stupid, but what is LoTR3:blush: :rolleye: ?

[Angryminer]

Lord of the Realm 3

Angryminer

[dearmad]

See what I mean about publicity? ;)

[Henrik]

Originally posted by dearmad
See what I mean about publicity? ;)

yeahh, i'll agree with on that one - if i was president of VU-game i would sack the whole PR-department :D

[Arjenvs]

Originally posted by Elewyn
You know. They probably think that game can be up-to-date only with 3D, so they sacrifised gameplay and graphics. Probably they think that it's better to offer game in poor 3D instead of great 2D. Silly, but question of what do you prefere. Make GOOD game or make game which is UP-TO-DATE.
Guess what I prefere

It is not only that the gameplay is sacrificed for the 3d view..... I don´t even like the 3 D views I know... I think 2 D views are faaaaar more realistic (as for this moment it is) and faaaaaaar nicer to look at....... 3D can´t possibly match good 2 D work...cause it is to hard to make it look real....like 2 D....far more detaillistic is 2D then 3D.....

I find 3D even ugly!!!!!!!!


*****A 2D fan!!!!*****

[dearmad]

I think a lot of the problem is those gamers who like flashy new stuff versus real, and thoughtful gameplay.

In the end they buy a game and play it once or twice- whereas we buy a game and play it a lot more often.... guess who the companies can make more money from. Yup they flash gamer- because he'll go out and buy something else next weekend while we're still playing with our game and finding new depth to it.

[Nike]

10x.

I thought you were talking about Lord of The Rings3.

[Sir Turylon]

3D graphics can really boost a game if they are added onto a great gameplay system. no doubt. I wonder if any of you have played Earth 2150. That game was and still is a great combination of 3D graphics and great gameplay. It also incorporates supply and logistics. You can terraform (alter) the ground to suit your defensive needs (like building a trench around your base and putting a bridge over one section to funnel enemy forces into it). LotR3 does look somewhat lacking in the graphics department. perhaps they should have gone for a 2D world with 3D castles and units.

BTW, how many of you have heard of the Strength and Honor project? It could give KoH some competition. ;)

[dearmad]

Nah, Strength and Honor looked like a watered down civilization to me...

I really don't see it adding anything interesting to the mix.Will check out earth 2150 though... when did that come out?

[Bagpipe]

3D graphics in strategies ****s!:angry: :angry: :angry:

Or, "if you wanna spoil a good strategy game, make it in 3D" (could be a good signature:D )

[Angryminer]

2150: Some years ago.
But yes, it's nice. Some eye-candy and a really solid gameplay. Nothing extremely-cool, but there's everything in what a strategy game needs and there is nothing especially bad about the game.

Angryminer