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Frujin
21-03-2004, 00:27
Originally posted by fallen_saint
great story and except for the ending :( :cool: but my own spy betraying me, i sure am glad revenge is possible :cheers: so the there was odds that your spy wasn't going to betray you? was there a chance if you didn't try to rule both countries that your former spy would have been your puppet and followed your orders?:confused:

Well, the Puppet King won't fight against you and you can give him some basic orders - like attack this Kingdom or make peace with those Kingdom. it is fine, but well, human nature yells for more and more land. Isn't it :) Also, as a Puppet King he acts on his own, i.e. it is possible for him to put himself on danger (or even get killed by another spy). And if this happens - "bye, bye, wonderful opportunity to join whole England at once!".

It is hard to resist to temptation :)

LadyH
21-03-2004, 00:55
that sounds real exciting to me :)
can't wait for the demo :D

greywulf
21-03-2004, 06:29
I agree. I'm quite impressed. I can't wait to hear more :D

Kuno of Gersenau
21-03-2004, 13:16
Wooowww!!! So many posts meanwhile, and Frujin, it sounds soo GREAT :go: :go: :bday: :cheers: :hello: :king:

Bora
21-03-2004, 13:28
Originally posted by Kuno of Gersenau
Wooowww!!! So many posts meanwhile, and Frujin, it sounds soo GREAT :go: :go: :bday: :cheers: :hello: :king:

normal! new answers means always new posts :)

Nike
21-03-2004, 13:34
Now Frujin, why did you said all of this? Now I can't wait for the game! Stop playing with my patience! I'm getting psychically unstable!:wacko: :silly:

Angryminer
21-03-2004, 14:15
Ehm, when I read this I think it will be really tempting just to load a savegame until the spy decides to turn over the english crown...

Will there be an option at game-start to disable savegames?
That means:
You won't be able to save the game manually, but the game automatically saves the game when you exit KoH and continues it when you want to continue this session.
This forces the player to take all the drawbacks and make the best of it.
[ Please note: This is optional! ]

Hm, this is getting offtopic, but I think it would be really nice to have something like a history-summary in a nice little screen in KoH. Click it and you are shown your greatest victories, your most desasterous defeats and the outcome of your cunning diplomatic plans.
Little stories with lots of different formulations (most of you know EUII - the history there is very repetitive) to further enhance the athmosphere.

Angryminer

Henrik
21-03-2004, 14:45
Originally posted by Angryminer
Ehm, when I read this I think it will be really tempting just to load a savegame until the spy decides to turn over the english crown...

Will there be an option at game-start to disable savegames?
That means:
You won't be able to save the game manually, but the game automatically saves the game when you exit KoH and continues it when you want to continue this session.
This forces the player to take all the drawbacks and make the best of it.
[ Please note: This is optional!

Yeahh, i would also think it was tempting to just push the "Load saved game" button - but for the game's sake...geee, that's a tough one Angryminer :eek:


Hm, this is getting offtopic, but I think it would be really nice to have something like a history-summary in a nice little screen in KoH. Click it and you are shown your greatest victories, your most desasterous defeats and the outcome of your cunning diplomatic plans.
Little stories with lots of different formulations (most of you know EUII - the history there is very repetitive) to further enhance the athmosphere.
Angryminer

I'll agree it would be sooooo nice to have the game keeping a record of your deeds - maybe we could have a screen where your
"tale" roll-up as history when the game ends.

Elewyn
21-03-2004, 15:37
Originally posted by Henrik

I'll agree it would be sooooo nice to have the game keeping a record of your deeds - maybe we could have a screen where your
"tale" roll-up as history when the game ends. I agree with you. That would be really great feature :)

And also I liked the graph of AoK, here it can be not by population, but by kingdom power and army force

Henrik
21-03-2004, 19:00
That's just about settles it then..........LET'S HAVE IT ;)

Haegemon
22-03-2004, 02:44
Only few days offline, and then here I can take a lot of surprising information.
I think it's cool, Amazing. :eek:

Bora
25-03-2004, 20:10
i have a better exampke than that with airforce one. strange that i didnt remember it earlier :silly:

the reason that a little town called bonn got capitol of west germany, and not hamburg, munich or frankfurt, or another bigger city, was cause konrad adenauer, the first kanzler of the federal republic of germany, was living near bonn. that sounds crazy, but that is true.

the knightly sword
29-03-2004, 22:02
Originally posted by Frujin
Yes, the key is: Nobody is perfect. You can develop you Knights but I can assure you that there is no perfect Knight. Let me give you an in-game example, something which happend to me.

I was playing with France. I decided that England became too strong recently and as I did manage good relationship with them, I suspected that they can turn against me anytime. So, I hired a spy and send it to "infiltrate" in England. it took quite some time, but finally he was hired as Marshall there. But surprisingly, the English King had only one Price who died in a battle in Scotland and I saw my chance. After eliminating Scottish threat England declared war on me (France) and they even sent my Spy with some army to fight against me. At this moment I had the choice to order my Spy to "defect" (i.e. to leave his army w/o Leader) or not to interfere (i.e. to treat him as real English army Leader). As I saw their King landing in Normandy, I decided not to interfere. I avoided battles with my spy as much as I can, but the guy finally besieged Brettany. OK, I lost the Castle in Brettany and all the province. But I trained some fresh troops at Paris and marshed against English King in Normandy (knowing he has no heirs at the moment).

There was some quick battle in which I didn't care about victory - my aim was to kill him - English King. And I succeeded. Because there was no heirs available, one of the Knights of England was choosen to become new King (luckily there were no big Kingdom splits or something due to lack of heir). And I was so happy when my Spy was elected as a King of England. When I selected him in my Court (the 9 Knights on top of the screen) I saw "Spy Gille, Puppet King of England". Puppet King means that "I control him" and I have the option to ask him to "hand over the crown" - means to join all his lands to my Kingdom.

Well, I did so. And was REALLY mad when this poor guy told me "Sorry, Sire, but I feel much better as King of England as a Spy of France" or something like this. Actually, he rejected to hand over the crown and I lost a very experienced Spy.

Well, I realised that he was quite well developed. He was a veteran in his job. That was good for him making his way to the crown, but also .... he apprantly got his own agenda because of his experience from the past . :)





excute him his trator of france . i would go to england with an big army and excute him ween i get the chance.and great story:go: :go: :go: :go: :go: :go: :go: it really rockd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!