Bludgeoning Weapons?

[Finellach]

I haven't seen one valid site(the one talking about connection of Kurds and Armenians with Croats) and data you provided. All these are amateurish and fabricated gibberish not backed by any of the scientific data. The funniest thing are those photos which are totally the opposite of what you say. :p

The funny thing is also that you use and provide the link which totally go against what you are saying. If one looks at table provided in one of your links he can clealry see that the Croatian population is a mix of Eu7(mostly present in Germany, Holland and France in WE, Albania and other Balkan states and Ukraine in EE), Eu19(Slavic genotype present in whole EE), Eu18(Germanic-Celtic genotype in WE) and Eu9, Eu10, Eu11(Mediterranean genotypes present in Greece, Turkey and also especially in Italy).

And Tudjman is a Hungarian surname and he is a descedant of Hungarian. He looked typically Slavic being medium tall, stronger built and light brown hair(later grey).

[Gorgoroth]

The photos? Welllll....everyone agree that they dont really look "white" at all. Some of them the color of the skin is white tho, but this is due to the larger assimilation percentage. Compare those to kurdish, armenian etc, and you will see the similarities as well. Also croats genetically are very close to them, what more "backup' do you need?
[The EU7 marker is absolutely off topic in this discussion, even the lapps do have more than 40% EU7 haplotype genes.]
I am a member on various racial/genetical sites, this is a common opinion. You can live with your ideas/thoughts, no problem, I dont care. :p

Tudjman is not a Hungarian surname, but why do I argue with you? :D :bday:

[Finellach]

Kurds and Armenians have much more darker skin than Croats. Those picutres are ridicuolous and to claim they look Kurdish is even more ridiculous. That soldier is an oil painting from more than 300 years old. Would you say Mona Lisa is Kurdish too? :rofl:
Other picutres also totally go against you, especially that of Glavas whom one of my uncles knows personal from his childhood. Man had extremly light skin and so light hair that he looked like a freak and you say hes Kurdish?!?! LOL!!

Btw. I could post some pictures of Hungarians and start claiming they look...I don't know....like Tibetans? :p

Next there are absolutly no data on Armenian or Kurdish genetic markers nor there can be any since such research was never taken there. I don't know how you can compare anything with them though since they don't exist...perhaps through crystal ball. :lol:

I am wondering if you are realizing that 38% Germans, 22% Dutch, 20% French and so are as well Eu7 so saying Croats look like Kurds is saying that Germans, Dutch, French and other also look like Kurds. Finally whoever made the comment that Croats resemble Kurds never has been in Croatia nor he probably ever met a single Croat. :p

Why do you argue with me? Beacause you know you are wrong, but funny thing is that you come for more and more....like a little good sadist. :p

[Frank Fay]

Hey guys, please !

My finger is very close to the "close" button...

Also the discussion is VERY off topic now.

[Finellach]

I am very sorry FF. I realize we have gone now OT and although I accept my part for the guilt of going OT I feel provoked by Gorgoroth. He is constantly rude...even to other people which can be seen in this very thread(he is laughing to Drake Maethor like he never made a mistake).
He posts this nonsense(even he knows it's crap) on purpose knowing I will react.

The best thing would be to foribid any disucussion such as this in the future. I know I can withold myself from it, but the question is can Gorgoroth be polite to other people and not start provoking others.

I don't want this to be one huge flame war between him and me.

[Hurricane766]

We're supposed to be talking about how awesome a unit with a mace would be.... smashy smashy

[Hurricane766]

Originally posted by Drake Maethor

By the way, and this is totally off topic, how are things there in the Balkans nowadays? Without Milosevic and after the war?



If you really want the truth about the so called "Genocide" check out www.antiwar.com and search for Kosovo.
I just went to a conference on Kosovo, and the violence isn't over. On March 18th, 2004 violence erupted again and a surgical strike was lead by Albainian extremists - fire bombing many Serbian churches, homes and hospitals.

What's really scary is that the US stuck its' nose in the middle of a civil war and gave the upper hand to one side (the Albainians). And they did it under the false pretext that there were human rights violations and a mass genocide.

When the UN sent investigators in to find the mass graves - they all came back saying there were none, and there was no mass genocide. To this day only 2000 bodies of any descent were found - and this is during a war too.

You don't here about this in the west because western media won't admit they were wrong. I think perhaps only German media has admitted they were wrong with respect to their reporting.

Off topic - I know, but important I think.

[Gorgoroth]

Yeah we went off topic, sorry for that. I could tell you many more about this, but I dont want to, it is absolutely pointless to argue with an ignorant person like Finellach. :D
He dont wanna accept the truth, and its a big problem. I have no idea why anyways.
I could argue many more about his last 2 replies [the laughable comparsion of the EU haplotype, you should know that the 45% EU7 haplotype percentage what makes you look like a fair skinned Kurd for example, also those pictures are very typical, everyone can see that except you etc. etc.]...but ah well, lets go back to the topic.
I only wanted to post an addition about the Balkans, but Finellach's ignorance and stupidity striked again. :D

[Elewyn]

Calm down.

Nobody here is ignorant!

Youboth just went too far, made some mistakes and there is no need to call ANYBODY ignorant right now! however I or anybody else agree with you or Finellach. In this case you are both wrong.

I would like to give my agreement with no genocide which was shown in Western media before air attacks on Serbia. No side is innocent, no side is absolutely guilty. But I would like it this will not continue.

Peace

[Finellach]

And here Elewyn is the proof ou wanted. Offensive, rude and racistic atitutude from Gorgoroth is the best you can get.

Not only he has no arguments, scientific or anthropoligical proofs for what he is saying, but more his claims are so absurd and so obviously wrong that it's ridicuolous. To say Eu19 is the "true" indo-european genotype is mildly to say idiotic. Saying Croats look like Kurds when Croats do not differ from other Caucassian Europeans and especially from their neighbours Hungarians, Italians, Serbs is even more idiotic.
Not to mention the pictures which show normal Caucassian European males.
There are valid scientific and genetic reasearch works that all negate his small quasi fabricated "proofs".

I have no desire to debate with him since it's like talking to a 2 year old child or worse to the wall and I am tired.

Btw. I reported this to the moderator and hopefully FF, Frujin or Nadine will see you in the real light.

[Elewyn]

They (Frank Fay, Frujin and Nadine) are not here to judge who has better proofs in questions o nation's origin! or who has better proofs that some member of this forum (1) is more or less ignorant than some other(2).

They are here to let us know some fact about that wonderfull game of KoH and to get some feedback.

[Frujin]

STOP!

Both of you, Finellach and Gorgoroth are respected members of this neat community. You are supposed to lead that forum, together with the other veterans here. But looking at your posts makes you behaving like medieval peasants :) playing mine-is-bigger-than-yours-game, is not that talk of a Nobleman.. Please discuss your little dispute not in public here at the forum. Yes?

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