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Dread Pirate Terry
04-01-2007, 14:53
it sure is refreshing to see some English conversation on this forum once in a while!
Years ago when I first played this scenario I'm sure I must have just attacked and taken what I needed but now I like the challenge of finding other ways to complete a scene.
That "legendary fighter", mamayourpeoplearehungry of all people discovered that by buying gold from the freetraders was the peaceful road to success here. You have to do it early on as they don't sell gold for very long. I only bought 4 tons which is plenty since you only have to advance 30 houses to get your 1,200 aristocrats.
It was interesting to see in the replies here to see that other people seemed to be playing slightly different versions of the same scene. I put the scene in the editor and discovered that other than the islands established by the AIs at the beginning, most of the other islands are randomly chosen so every time you start the scene over things change slightly. The northwest cluster of islands always has enough tobacco, alcohol and ore to have 30 fairly happy, (33% taxes) citizens. In every case, in the long string of tiny islands there is one cocoa island and one spice island. If you only run one plantation on each island you'll produce enough cocoa & spice (70/80 tons) to deliver at the end of the game and your 450 citizens advance to 1,200 aristos.
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moonlitcoyote
05-01-2007, 03:28
Really? Because I have started over at least 5 times now because I failed and have never found spice or cocoa on any island.... Cant wait tho to see how Dobber makes out. This has been very frustrating to me, not being able to figure it out..........GO Dobber !!

Dobber
05-01-2007, 03:38
Really? Because I have started over at least 5 times now because I failed and have never found spice or cocoa on any island.... Cant wait tho to see how Dobber makes out. This has been very frustrating to me, not being able to figure it out..........GO Dobber !! You found no spice or cocoa on any of the string of islands to the left(west) of the white player?

If they are southern climate idlands, you should at least find them with 50% fertility, which is enough to produce some product.

moonlitcoyote
06-01-2007, 04:56
You are sooo right Dobber, I started the scenario over AGAIN, and found an island good for 50% spices, so I put 4 spice plantations there, bought everything from the free traders that they would sell me and FINALLY I made it through it. Thank god thats over lol. And I didnt even have to go to war. Thanks all for all your help. I still want to know how you make out tho Dobber.:cheers:

Prince Eric of the Lorah Clan
06-01-2007, 05:03
Congratulations!:cheers:

Dobber
06-01-2007, 05:23
You are sooo right Dobber, I started the scenario over AGAIN, and found an island good for 50% spices, so I put 4 spice plantations there, bought everything from the free traders that they would sell me and FINALLY I made it through it. Thank god thats over lol. And I didnt even have to go to war. Thanks all for all your help. I still want to know how you make out tho Dobber.:cheers:


Great! Glad you finally made it! :go:
I will let you know, I have currently been playing 1701 and haven't gotten back to 1602 yet. But I will!

Prince Eric of the Lorah Clan
18-01-2007, 01:05
I finally solved this scenario, Humility is a Virtue. I bought the gold from the freetraders early in the scenario. I got to 450 Citizens then started spice production on one of the 50% spice islands and cocoa on the only remaining 100% cocoa island. I stockpiled the spice and cocoa on several of the small islands and then I made the jump from 450 Citizens to 1200 Aristocrats as fast as I could before running out of supplies. :go: