New BSS Game

[Elvain]

Maybe, because it had been addressed in another thread (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showpost.php?p=353044&postcount=127), but can't really say that is why noone has answered.
maybe because noone knows?
I think we will know it once it will be clear for BSS what evidently isn't yet and won't be any soon.

[Scott716]

Seems like it's geared more towards multiplayer which I don't do or like. And seeing the terms hectic, and fast and furious as gameplay decriptions on the site totally turn me off. How is that different then any other RTS?..The market is crammed with them.
After KOH I thought I would buy anything these guys put out but that's when I thought they would be making KOH type of games that play out at a slower pace and have deep single player strategy. The battles were my least favorite thing about KOH. Oh well, I hope it does good but I don't think it's for me. I'll wait for KOH 2.

[Angryminer]

And seeing the terms hectic, and fast furious as gameplay decriptions on the site totally turn me off. How is that different then any other RTS?..The market is crammed with them.
After KOH I thought I would buy anything these guys put out but that's when I thought they would be making KOH type of games that play out at a slower pace and had have deep single player strategy. [...] Oh well, I hope it does good but I don't think it's for me. I'll wait for KOH 2.Well said. That's also my stance on it.

Angryminer

[Carbon]

And seeing the terms hectic, and fast furious as gameplay decriptions on the site totally turn me off. How is that different then any other RTS?..The market is crammed with them.
After KOH I thought I would buy anything these guys put out but that's when I thought they would be making KOH type of games that play out at a slower pace and had have deep single player strategy. [...] Oh well, I hope it does good but I don't think it's for me. I'll wait for KOH 2.

I agree. I am deeply dissapointed that KoH2 has not been announced. The Sci-Fi theme should be left with Starcraft II, the 3-D graphics would absolutely destroy my computer, which is outdated. I too shall wait for KoH2, and simply pass this game in favour for another. Who agrees?

[Tzar Simeon Veliki]

I agree. I am deeply dissapointed that KoH2 has not been announced. The Sci-Fi theme should be left with Starcraft II, the 3-D graphics would absolutely destroy my computer, which is outdated. I too shall wait for KoH2, and simply pass this game in favour for another. Who agrees?
Count me in.

[Elvain]

well, though medieval strategies are my main interest in gaming, I wouldn't judge this game from first screenshot and several words..

we'll see what will it be...

and I wish Worldshift all good, also because without success of Worldshift there would hardly be KoH2

[Scott716]

I agree. I am deeply dissapointed that KoH2 has not been announced. The Sci-Fi theme should be left with Starcraft II, the 3-D graphics would absolutely destroy my computer, which is outdated. I too shall wait for KoH2, and simply pass this game in favour for another. Who agrees?

Actually, I have no problem with the SciFi setting...in fact I loved Fallout so a post apocolyptic world sounds great but where they lost me was the the type of gameplay. I wanted the same type of style as KOH but with Scifi. That would have been great but this sounds like another full speed ahead click fest that will just bog down my machine. To many of those already.

[Elvain]

I wanted the same type of style as KOH but with Scifi. That would have been great but this sounds like another full speed ahead click fest that will just bog down my machine. To many of those already.
well, I think there still is lot of room for hopes that it will be closer to KoH...

[Tzar Simeon Veliki]

I don't want action. I never play games because you can develop fast and the game is ultra dynamic. That's why I never liked Starcraft for example. I don't like games where you play 10 minutes and it's over. There are others for such a time waste (and in fact are even more interesting than some "clickfest" as Scott716 said) - Tetris, Pang, Bubble Bubble, PacMan and so on.
I also guess that WorldCraft (or was it WorldShift?) will have high system requirements. I'll never give my money away for new hardware and even for a game that will keep me excited for about 15 minutes.
We want Knights of Honor 2!
P.S. I hope I'm wrong. And I don't mean to offend you, BSS, but at least I was eager to see the announcement of KoH and not some RTS game.

[Angryminer]

I trust Frujin that he will make a good RTS. I don't think the development will be useless. Frujin always had a hand for good games (Tzar, KoH).
But at this stage in time I just can't see what Worldshift will have to offer. From reading the website I only know that it's going to be unlike every other RTS, which many other RTS had on their website. RTS are really only successful if they are the successor of a successful RTS.
I also hope Worldshift will reach an about neutral financial balance so BSS can start work on KoH2. So my stance on Worldshift is similar to that on a commercial brake on TV. Necessary, but hopefully soon over.

I'm saying this to express my open opinion. If BSS wants to prove me wrong, please do so and release some information on Worldshift. We're confused, not to say bewildered.

Angryminer

[Frank Fay]

More info is coming very soon... trust Frujin :cheers:

[Traveller]

Yes, have trust in the Frujin! :biggrin:
For me the game looks quite interesting, no matter it isn't KoH2, and unless BSS screw it up pretty bad, I'll probably buy it, especially if it would secure the development and release of KoH2. :wink:

[Anguille2]

I am mostly worried about being able to run the game on my computer....with such graphics!

[4zzY]

In Frujin we trust! :bowdown:

haha :biggrin:

[Phil Walker]

For me, trust is not the issue. I also don't go by screenshots or reviews. All play a role indeed, but not what is my determining factor. I'm not only a player but a collector and Sci-Fi is not what I like or desire. Graphics are also not an issue to me as I have a reasonably top-end machine, but will be getting a better one soon. Medieval has always interested me and not just in games, but from the historical standpoint. So, that is what I desire; a game in Medieval with some historic accuracy. I've been going back and even getting some antique Win95 games that I did not know existed, and have avoided many new games as that are not of interest and this game, regretfully, will be one I pass on. I play all genres as well; RTS, TBS, and CB make up most of my collection. The only I avoid is FPS as my eyes are not good enough to play and enjoy those.


Sincerely,
Phil

[Richard]

Guys be patient and understanding. Think about it, Koh wasn't exactly "big money" for reasons we all know, so making Koh 2 right now wouldn't be a bright business decision. This new game opens new doors, if it is succesful BSS will get not just the funds needed for a possible Koh2 but a wider reccognition in the game industrie.
Also this new game seems to have a new game engine which could be used on a Koh2.
Sci fi not your thing? Play something else for the time been, for those of you who like "slow" historical strategy games may I reccomend Paradox titles?

[Phil Walker]

Your post, like mine (of prior and now), is but opinion, and I don't share in yours (that KoH was not a great seller as it still sells in many retail stores, at least in my area). Forgive this remark, but it sounds just like an Anno (older version) gamer and if you cast apersions on my likes and desrtes, I have no time for yours. Plain and simple, if this new game that is outlined is what will be next, I won't buy it. I also have all the Paradox collection to this given date, none of which are that great. Indeed I do have other fitting games, but if BSS wants my support, it won't happen with this new game, (again) plain and simple.

Sincerely,
Phil

[Tzar Simeon Veliki]

Also this new game seems to have a new game engine which could be used on a Koh2.Please, no! What about us, those with the slow and dumb computers? They already did this stupid mistake with the Heroes series - Ubival made Heroes 5 extremely slow for low-end PCs and that's what made many fans stay on H3. Don't follow their steps, BSS!

[Phil Walker]

Slow and dumb computers you say. How so?! You just might need to do some minor upgrades is all and not have to get a new system for better graphics (and other features). If you like, I can assist and see what can be done. Just put up a post in the Tech Support forum and supply your DxDiag and I (and/or we) will see what can be done. There are many decent video cards that are at minimal costs now, so you just have to know what you can use is all. Also, find out the maximum output wattage of your pwer supply as well, and leave it to us to see if you can do better without a new system.

Sincerely,
Phil

[Richard]

Koh Was not a big seller, and that's a fact. The reasons, extremely Poor publisher and very bad beta tested. Must people that have come to this forum have said that they had never heard of Koh before until they saw it at a store or someone told them about it. Sunflower did a bad job showing Koh to the public, they only released it in the some parts of europe, plus they had the bright idea of releasing it almost at the same time Mtw came out, which though far from been a decent game, had flashy graphics which is what 90% of the common gamers go for. So when It was released Koh wasn't exactly a success. Koh had a little revival when paradox published it in the Us, but it quickly died again because of the long wait for the patch.

No one is forcing you to buy this new game, if you don't like it then don't buy it, is your money and time, but acting the way your acting now won't solve anything. Bss is a business, businesses need money to stay alive, so they have to make products that have a chance of bringing it in.

About graphics and old comps. Well is time to update if you want to play newer games and like Phil Walker said, some minor upgrades can
usually do the job. The game industrie is always growing and making new things. Withing a couple of years 2d games will probably be a thing of the past. Gamers want better graphics, so the only way for game developers to stay alive is by making what must customers will buy. The demand for big graphics far outweights the demand for well modeled histical accuracy, gameplay,ect (what must of us like, people who play Koh in general)
Don't get me wrong, I honestly prefer nice simple graphics like the ones in Koh, I don't care much of how the eye candy looks as long as the general gameplay is good. Must of the newer games are nothing but pure graphics and bad gameplay, yet they sell millions (example MTW, Only decent thing are the big battles,) The reason: the average gamer doesn't care about historical accuracy, or strong Ai, just the big flashi graphics and hordes of delailed little troops killing eachother. They don't want to tke some time a develop a strategy to attack the enemy, instead they just send a 4 times larger force to do the job and finish the game in 5 minutes.