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Elvain
14-12-2004, 14:25
here's what I promissed:

To add certain province to certain kingdom you need to edit only one file:
kingdoms.ini in europe.pak\map
there are, one after another (with numbers) kingdoms.

1) find your kingdom, remember it's number!!
2) add number of realm you want to add
3) find kingdom which was original owner, remove realm number, remember kingdom number!
4) scroll down and there you have to edit "borders" in relations between kingdoms [kingdom1 number/kingdom2 number]
the most important is to find owners of all bordering realms of the realm you are changing. Then find their numbers and edit number of realms they border on. under "borders"
5)save the file, open PakMan, open europe.pak, find kingdoms_XXX.ini, replace it and play :)

example:
Moving Silesia (69) from Poland [21] to Bohemia [53] in late period (so file: kingdom_1200.ini)

Province of Silesia border on kingdoms of Brandenburg (borders:1) and Teutonic order(borders:2), so you need to edit this. By moving Silesia to Bohemia, number of bordering realms betwen Bohemia[53] and Poland[21] changed from 4(Bohemia/Silesia,Moravia/Silesia, Moravia/Mazovia, Moravia/Krakow) to 3(Silesia/Mazovia, Moravia/Mazovia, Moravia/Krakow)
Final number for borders with Brandenburg [52] is 2(Bohemia/Brandenburg+new Silesia/Brandenburg)
Final number for borders with Teutonic order [27] is 2(0+new Silesia/Pomerania, Silesia/Prussia)

One little advice: relations are by kingdom with higher number, so in this case Bohemia[53]
number of kingdoms are different in each period (kingdom_XXX.ini file)

WARNING: all those editions are on your own risk and may cause crashes while you play KoH!!!!! It has nothing to do with BSS nor SF!!!
best wishes, Elvain

PS: if you are interested what are province numbers, PM me and I can give you the number, it's not by alphabetical nor any othe order. example: Bohemia 33, Silesia 69, Istria 24, Dalmatia 17, Bosnia 80, Panonia 67, Raska 25, Banat 40, Carinthia 163 etc
but due to my interest in it, I have list of all province numbers, maybe I'll post it here, if it would be wanted

dreych
03-01-2005, 16:15
i tried somethink to do,but i faild.
can anyone tell me how to:
1. rename carinthia to karantanija
2.change town name from klagenfurth to celovec
3.to change carintians logo(shield,simbol)
4.to change the germanic name of nobels,knights... to slovenian name

tnak you very very very very much.

Elvain
03-01-2005, 16:35
1. open texts.pak, find map/eu_realms.tsv, open it by MS Excel, find there Carinthia and leave the first column as it is, the second and third edit how you like it
2. the same but in eu_towns.tsv
3. because Carinthia is not separate nation, I don't know how can this be done, the province doesn't have any coat-of-arms nor symbol as far as I know*
4. you must first add those names to eu_knights in texts.pak, then you need to add those names to some file in europe.pak/kings where provincial nationalities are (serbian, moravian, arabic etc., for your need probably serbian which "servs" to Serbs and Croats), edit file regions_800/1000/1200 in europe.pak/knights by moving Carinthia to this nationality

there is also possibility of creating completely new nation, but by now I can't give you any satiosfactory way how to do it (and make Carinthia independent playable nation with own knight nationality). I am now still before testing this possibility.

Elvain

dreych
03-01-2005, 16:50
ohhhh thak u sooo much,i will try to fix as much as i can. thank u really

about the karantanijas simbols. i have asked a month ago,if i can play whit carinthia as kingdom, and got negative answers, and some days ago, i was playing whit scotland, and saw that carintiha was independent. then i used cheat to switch from scotland to carintiha, and it has its own simbol (but not the right one). it has almost the same simbol as austria,but i wanna change it to white shield whit black panther in it. so can i even change that.

thank u very very much again.

Elvain
03-01-2005, 16:55
Yes, kingdoms that use provincial names can emerge in the game.
I am not sure, but as far as I know, their coats and banners are mostly random, or (from my experiece) are some modification of their former user's banners.

I'm trying to create new playable nations now (Flandres in the high period). As soon as it will be tested by me, I'll tell you.

dreych
03-01-2005, 17:00
ammm...where do i open text.pak C:\Program Files\Black Sea Studios\Knights Of Honor\packs\texts.pak ???

dreych
03-01-2005, 17:05
thank u again for ur answer.

Elvain
03-01-2005, 17:25
yes, it is right. You must use Tempest's KoH PakMan which can be downloaded from one of threads here on forums, just search threads started by Tempest

PS: very important if you dont know it yet. It's unofficial and it has nbothing to do with BSS nor SF, it's program made by Tempest

dreych
03-01-2005, 17:42
i have just changed carintia to karanatnija, and klagenfurth to celovec, and saved it. then i have enter the game, and it said that "can not run taxt.pak" or somethink like that. when i enter the game it was all mixed up (the main menu, i didnt saw carainta or karantanija but just "province name" adn "realm name")
where did i made mistake??
tnank u

Elvain
03-01-2005, 17:52
Have you red readme of PakMan?

Did you save changes by PakMan? You have to (well I didn't say it to you)
Did you edited ONLY second and third column in those files?

to save by PakMan, open texts.pak rightclick at the file you have changed, chose "replace content by file from specified directory (find your edited file) and when all you wanted to change is replaced, click at SAVE CHANGES at left bottom corner of KoH PakMan. And it should work. I must go now. Good luck

dreych
03-01-2005, 18:09
...now i cant open text file in pakman:(

dreych
03-01-2005, 18:25
i know i am really anoying, but i cant open whit pakman,so i thougt if u coul just change the name of province and town, and send it, and thaen i will change whit my text file,in case that would work.
thank u very much

Elvain
03-01-2005, 20:38
I think it would be better for you to reinstal the game and I'll send edited files for you.

Then make backup of texts.pak, send me your e-mail adress (via PM) and I'll send you edited files eu_towns and eu_realms

Then open texts.pak in original directory, replace those 2 files by those edited ones, save changes in PakMan and play. I am sure it will work.

Tempest
04-01-2005, 00:41
@ dreych: In your KoH packs directory, you should find a directory "PakMan Backups". Find the texts.pak with the lowest number attached to it, rename it back to texts.pak, and move it into the packs directory. That should repair the game. If not, I'm afraid you have to reinstall.
I have pointed out, though, that altering the pak files is an unnecessary risk, and that it has many advantages to edit the files in their original directories and leave them there.
Reading the readme.txt helps. That's why it's called readme.txt.

As to your problem with the renaming of provinces, Elvain is right. Don't touch the first column, it's the key by which KoH finds a province entry. It must not be altered.

dreych
04-01-2005, 02:03
sorry but i didnt find any directory or file "pakman backups".i wonder if i can get edited file from u wondeful people and just copy it to my koh packs directory and that then it will be ok?
and i dint touch the first column...
tnx

dreych
04-01-2005, 02:09
i am really scared to reinstall becouse, i was just lucky to see that carinthia becom an independent province when i was playing whit scotland.

Elvain
04-01-2005, 10:09
search backups under Knights of Honor/packs It should be there.

So, follow Tempests words and send me your e-mail adress, I already have it edited for you. I only would like to recieve how EXACTLY would you like to call it (second and third column of realm)PS: after reinstallation you may continue with saved games, there is possibility to keep your user profile and saved games...
honestly, If you would like to continue that game where you play for Carinthia with changed directories, I wouldn't recomand it to you. The game runs worse when you start a game, then change directories and than continue playing. It's like with the patch in this case

dreych
04-01-2005, 21:16
hi!
mmm. my last saved game is not whit carinthia, but whit scotland,so i must use cheat to play whit carinthia. i still didnt find text beckup file, BUT i have found text file from my demo koh game, and the game runs just fine. can i now just copy that new repared file to my koh/packs, so the game would...?