.pak edits - let's make KoH better

[Elvain]

Hi, did anybody of "KoH-improvers" using PakMan already found right way how to edit province name, town included?

If you know, don't be selfish, please and share your experience with others.

This thread could also be (if people in BSS and SF would agree) a place where we, KoH players will post our suggestions of editing certain files to make KoH better. What I would like is:
If any of us is not satisfied with some name, feature, atributes or whatever else in KoH, let's just find a way how to fix it by PakMan and post your edits here. Then, if people in BS and SF will like it, there will be nothing easier than just copying it and including it into the next patch :)

example:
Right now I'm working on some improvements of king, queen, prince and knight names of Bohemia and Armenia as well as some province names. I didn't test results of my attempts yet, but here is way how to edit/fix ing, prince and queen names:
1) open europe.pak file
2) find a kingdom you would like to edit/fix (in my case I will use Bohemia)
2a) if the kingdom is in more than one period be carefull what year you choose:
2b) for early period (1000) use file "Kingdom;800.txt", in my case Bohemia;800.txt
2c) for high period (1200) use file "Kingdom;1000.txt", in my case Bohemia;1000.txt
2d) for late period (1350) use file "Kingdom;1200.txt", in my case Bohemia;1200.txt
3) make backup of the file first, then follow readme
4) open .txt folder and edit it as you think it's better
in my case:
[king]
name = Karel I
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Zikmund

5) sorry, but I'm not sure yet what to do exactly, I am just fixing many and many other kings, queens etc., so that's probably place for Tempest
I guess it's... click to original (not backup!) file, rightclick:
replace content -> of selected file (by specified file)
I hope it's all


Now, how to change your knights' names?
1) open maps\europe\knights\regions_800.ini(or if necessary for your kindgom also regions_1000.ini or regions_1200.ini)
2) regions there can be understood as "nationality of knights"
3) look if "region" corresponds to provinces you mean to edit(to make sure if the nationality is right) in my case it's [moravia], for Croatia it is [serbia]
4) open certain .in2 file So I open "maps\europe\knights\moravia.in2" file
it looks like this:
[rules]
title = xxx(graf)
id = XX(17)

[male]
Xxx (knights' names)

[female]
Xxx(princesses' names)

(before you edit it, make backup)
5)edit it and follow same rules as in all oter cases, this should be IMO enough to edit knights' and princesses' names

I hope you will share your improvements with us too. :)
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so, here are my edits:filename, elvain's notes
europe.pak\maps\europe\knights\moravia.in2
[rules]
title = pan(will try vevoda, but I am not sure yet if completely new title will work)
id = 17 (you should leave this!!)

[male]edited almost all
Bedrich
Jan
Jindrich
Konrad
Miroslav
Oldrich
Ondrej
Ota
Petr
Prokop
Slavata
Vit
Vladimir
Bohuslav
Borivoj
Vladislav
Lukas
Premysl
Svatopluk
Vratislav
Vaclav
Ladislav
Jiri
Daniel
Ctibor
Matyas
Arnost

[female]
Anna
Adela
Anezka
Alzbeta
Eliska
Libuse
Marketa
Marie
Bozena
Blanka
Katerina
Judita
Zdena

europe.pak\maps\europe\knights\armenian.in2
[rules]
title = Doux

id = 19

[male]
Ashot
Sembat
Levon
Thoros
Gagik
Hethum
Jovhannes
Abas
Abusahl
Gurgen
Derenik
David
Vasak
Nerses
Hayk
Antranig
Ara
Armen
Arshavir
Artaxiad
Avarair
Avedis
Bedrosian
Boghos
Dickran
Eznik
Garabed
Hagop
Haig
Haroutyoun
Hoven
Hovsep
Izmirlian
Jirair
Karayan
Kevork
Khachig
Kolb
Korian
Kirkor
Magar
Mesrop
Nishan
Parounag
Sahak
Sion
Tiridates
Vartan
Yervant
Zeroun

[female]
Anahid
Ankine
Anoush
Armenouhie
Gadara
Gadarine
Gayane
Lucine
Margarid
Miriam
Nairi
Serpuhi
Shakeh
Shoushan
Siran
Sirvat
Takouhi
Vartoughi
Voshkie
Zagir
Tamar
Ovsanna
Iskuhi
Zabel

europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;1000.txt
[king]
name = Premysl Ottakar I

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Vladislav

europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;1200.txt
[king]
name = Karel I
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Zikmund


europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;800.txt
[king]
name = Boleslav II
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Emma

[prince_1]
name = Boleslav III

next will come soon. Feel free to add your ideas, paths and edits. Thanks, Elvain :cheers:

PS: @Devs/mods. If you don't like this, feel free to close or delete this

Special thanks to TEMPEST for his PakMan!!! :hug:

[Kailes]

Hi, did anybody of "KoH-improvers" using PakMan already found right way how to edit province name, town included?

/Texts/map/eu_realms.tsv
/Texts/map/eu_realms;2.tsv
/Texts/map/eu_towns.tsv
/Texts/map/eu_towns;2.tsv

However you must not change the first column in these files, because the names in the first column are used as a reference by other files.

Would you be so kind and post your changes here, so that I am able to change the german version?

[Elvain]

so, before any of us will try to add some names, make sure if they already are in texts.pak\texts\knights\eu_knights.tsv or texts.pak\texts\knights\eu_knights;2.tsv

PS: is it possible to add names into the first one? devs?

my changes of province names:
here's whole texts.pak\texts\map\eu_realms.tsv (edits

key base ish anish gen
default a <ish> <base>'s
Abassids Abbassids Abbassidian an <ish>
Acquitaine Aquitaine Aquitanian an <ish>
Al Alamein Libya Libyan <ish>
Al Djazair Al Djazair Djazarish an <ish>
Alexandria Alexandria Alexandrian an <ish>
Algeires Algeira Algerian an <ish>
Alsace Alsace Alsacian an <ish>
Anatolia Anatolia Anatolian an <ish>
Andalucia Andalucia Andalucian an <ish>
Anglia East Anglia East Anglian an <ish>
Anjou Anjou Anjouian an <ish>
Antalya Lydia Lydian an <ish>
Antioch Antioch Antiochean an <ish>
Appulia Appulia Appulian an <ish>
Arabia Arabia Arabian an <ish>
Aragon Aragon Aragon an <ish>
Arkhangelsk Arkhangelsk Arkhangelsk an <ish>
Armenia Armenia Armenian an <ish>
Austria Austria Austrian an <ish>
Auvergne Auvergne Auvergnian an <ish>
Azov Azov Azov an <ish>
Banat Banat Banat
Bavaria Swabia Swabian
Bdin Bdin Bdin
Benghazi Barka Barkan
Berebers Berebers Bereberian
Bohemia Bohemia Bohemian
Bosnia Bosnia Bosnian
Brandenburg Brandenburg Brandenburger
Bretagne Bretagne Bretagnian
Brittany Brittany Breton
Buda Alfold Alfoldish
Bulgaria Bulgaria Bulgarian
Burgundy Burgundy Burgundian
Byzantia Byzantia Byzantian
Cairo Egypt Egyptian
Cambria Cambria Cambrian
Cappadocia Cappadocia Cappadocian
Carinthia Carinthia Carinthian
Carpatia Carpatia Carpatian
Castilia Castilia Castilian
Catalonia Catalonia Catalonian
Champagne Champagne Champagnian
Chernigov Chernigov Chernigov
Cordoba Cordoba Cordoban
Cork Cork Corkish an <ish>
Cornwall Cornwall Cornish
Corsica Corsica Corsican
Crete Crete Cretan
Crimea Crimea Crimean
Croatia Croatia Croatian
Cumans Cumans Cuman
Cyprus Cyprus Cypriot
Cyrenaica Cyrenaica Cyrenaican
Dacia Dacia Dacian
Dalmatia Dalmatia Dalmatian
Danemark Denmark Danish
Dobrudzha Dobrudzha Dobrudzhan
East Sahara East Sahara East Saharan an <ish>
England England English an <ish>
Epirus Epirus Epirian an <ish>
Estonia Estonia Estonian an <ish>
Fatimids Fatimids Fatimid
Fez Fez Fez
Finland Finland Finnish
Flanders Flandres Flandrian
France France French
Franconia Franconia Franconian
Frieseland Frieseland Frieseland
Galicia Galicia Galician
Gelre Gelre Gelre
Genoa Genoa Genoese
Georgia Georgia Georgian
Germany Germany German
Golden Horde Golden Horde Golden Horde Golden Horde
Gotland Götaland Götaland
Granada Granada Granadian
Hannover Mecklenburg Mecklenburger
Hellas Hellas Greek
Helvetia Helvetia Helvetian
Highlands Highlands Highland
Hordaland Hordaland Hordalandish
Hungaria Hungaria Hungarian
Hungary Hungary Hungarian
Iaroslavl Iaroslavl Iaroslavl an <ish>
Ilkhanids Ilkhanids Ilkhanid an <ish>
Ireland Ireland Irish an <ish>
Istria Hrvatska Hrvatskan an <ish>
Italy Italy Italian an <ish>
Jordan Jordan Jordanian
Jutland Jutland Jutlandish
Karaman Karaman Karamanish
Karelia Karelia Karelian
Karvuna Dobrudza Dobrudzan
Kazan Kazan Kazan
Kent Kent Kent
Khazars Khazars Khazar
Kiev Kiev Kiev
Kilikia Kilikia Kilikian
Krakow Krakow Krakowian
Kuban Kuban Kuban
Kurdistan Kurdistan Kurd
Kurland Courland Courland
Languedoc Languedoc Languedoc
Latins Latins Latin
Lebanon Lebanon Lebanese
Leinster Leinster Leinster
Leon Leon Leon
Lisbon Porto Porto
Lithuania Lithuania Lithuanian
Livonia Livonia Livonian
Lombardy Lombardy Lombard
Lorraine Lorraine Lorraine
Lotharingia Lotharingia Lotharingian
Lothian Lothian Lothian
Lugansk Lugansk Lugansk
Lviv Lviv Lviv
Macedonia Macedonia Macedonian
Mameluks Mameluks Mameluk
Marakesh Marakesh Marakesh
Mazovia Mazovia Mazovian
Mercia Mercia Mercian
Moesia Moesia Moesian
Moldavia Moldavia Moldavian
Moravia Moravia Moravian
Morocco Morocco Morrocan
Munster Munster Munster
Muscovy Muscovy Muscovian
Muskowy Muskowy Muscowian
Naples Naples Napolitanian
Napoli Napoli Napolitanian
Nassau Nassau Nassian
Navarra Navarre Navarre
Nicaea Nicaea Nicaean
Normandy Normandy Norman
Norrland Norrland Norrland
Norway Norway Norwegian
Novgorod Novgorod Novgorod
Nyland Nyland Nyland
Olonets Vologda Vologdan an <ish>
Oran Oran Oran an <ish>
Orlean Francia Francian an <ish>
Oslo Oslo Oslan an <ish>
Palestina Palestina Palestinian
Pamplona Pamplona Pamplonian
Panonia Panonia Panonian
Papacy Papacy Papal
Pechenegs Pechenegs Pecheneg
Perjaslavl Perjaslavl Perjaslavl
Pfalz Pfalz Pfalz
Podole Podole Podolian
Poland Poland Polish
Polotsk Polotsk Polotzk
Pomerania Pomerania Pomeranian
Portugal Portugal Portuguese
Provence Provence Provencal
Prussia Prussia Prussian
Raska Raska Raskan
Rome Rome Roman
Rum Rum Rum
Russia Russia Russian
Ryazan Ryazan Ryazan
Salzburg Tyrolia Tyrolian
Samogita Samogita Samogitan
Saragosa Saragosa Saragossan
Saratov Saratov Saratov
Sardenia Sardenia Sardenian
Savoy Savoy Savoian
Saxony Saxony Saxonian
Scotland Scotland Scottish
Seljuks Seljuks Seljuk
Serbia Serbia Serbian
Sicily Sicily Sicilian
Sinai Sinai Sinaian
Sinope Paflagonia Paflagonian
Skaane Scania Scanish
Smolensk Smolensk Smolensk
Solun Solun Solun
Spain Aragon Aragoneese
Strathclyde Strathclyde Strathclyde
Suzdal Suzdal Suzdal
Svealand Svealand Svealand
Sweden Sweden Swedish
Switzerland Switzerland Swiss Swiss'
Sylezia Silesia Silesian
Syria Syria Syrian
Tago Tago Tagan
Tambov Tambov Tambov
Tangiers Tangiers Tangeirs
Teuton order Teutonic Order Teutonic
Thrace Thrace Thracian
Toledo Toledo Toldeian
Transylvania Transylvania Transylvanian
Trebizond Trebizond Trebizond
Tripoli Tripoli Tripolitanian
Trondelag Trøndelag Trøndelag
Tunisia Tunis Tunisian
Turnovo Turnovo Turnovo
Turov Turov Turov
Tuscany Tuscany Tuscanian
Tver Tver Tver
Tyrolia Bavaria Bavarian
Ufa Samara Samaran an <ish>
Ukraine Kiev Kievian an <ish>
Ulster Ulster Ulster an <ish>
Valencia Valencia Valencian
Venice Venice Venetian
Vilnus Vilnus Vilnus
Vladimir Vladimir Vladimir
Volgograd Sarai Saraian
Volhynia Volhynia Volhynian
Voronezh Voronezh Voronezh
Wales Wales Welsh
Wallachia Wallachia Wallachian
Wessex Wessex Wessex
West Sahara West Sahara West Saharan
Wurtemberg Hesse Hessen
Yedisan Yedisan Yedissan
York York York an <ish>
Zealand Zealand Zealand
Zenata Zenata Zenatan
Zeta Zeta Zetan
Zirid Zirid Zirid

PS:Antalya changed because it means the same like Anatolia, but in turkish :)
Franconia and Nassau seem to be the same, but in my version, there was Franconia:Hesse, Nassau:Franconia, then Wurtemberg was Nassau, but I changed it to Hesse I don't understand why it was changed. These changes must be done also in all other cases where they are, but right now I must leave, so I will post you more soon (tomorrow)

[Hector]

Turkish word for Anatolia is Anadolu

[Elvain]

sorry, my fault :(

[Moonlightseeker]

Elvain, I have read very carefully what you said about the edition of the .pak files. It is very interesting especially because my wish is to control my own country with my own lord and I see in your post a little hope to have it. But before manipulate myself the files(I would prefer have a tool / map generator / editor developped by Sunflowers but it seems to not be a future dev.), I would know if you had had any problems with the changes you made ? Does it work ?

A last question : I understood you used a soft Pakman to edit these files ? Do you have an URL where I can download it ?

Many Thanks

________________________
Moonlightseeker

[Frujin]

(I would prefer have a tool / map generator / editor developped by Sunflowers but it seems to not be a future dev.)?


There is debug tool used to edit maps into the game available when you start it in debug mode.

[Moonlightseeker]

Ok. Thanks Frujin for this info.

I will look for how can I start the game in debug mode this week-end.

____________________
Moonlightseeker

[Webmaster]

the solution for this was all the time in front of your noses ;)

[Sir Turylon]

the solution for this was all the time in front of your noses ;)

You devs are so sly. You incorporate modification ability but do not let on that you can. Instead, you make the community figure out the puzzle for themselves. :cheers:

"What were you doing then?"
"sneaking."

Frujin is now known as sneaker.

[Cro_Knight]

Hi, did anybody of "KoH-improvers" using PakMan already found right way how to edit province name, town included?

If you know, don't be selfish, please and share your experience with others.

This thread could also be (if people in BSS and SF would agree) a place where we, KoH players will post our suggestions of editing certain files to make KoH better. What I would like is:
If any of us is not satisfied with some name, feature, atributes or whatever else in KoH, let's just find a way how to fix it by PakMan and post your edits here. Then, if people in BS and SF will like it, there will be nothing easier than just copying it and including it into the next patch :)

example:
Right now I'm working on some improvements of king, queen, prince and knight names of Bohemia and Armenia as well as some province names. I didn't test results of my attempts yet, but here is way how to edit/fix ing, prince and queen names:
1) open europe.pak file
2) find a kingdom you would like to edit/fix (in my case I will use Bohemia)
2a) if the kingdom is in more than one period be carefull what year you choose:
2b) for early period (1000) use file "Kingdom;800.txt", in my case Bohemia;800.txt
2c) for high period (1200) use file "Kingdom;1000.txt", in my case Bohemia;1000.txt
2d) for late period (1350) use file "Kingdom;1200.txt", in my case Bohemia;1200.txt
3) make backup of the file first, then follow readme
4) open .txt folder and edit it as you think it's better
in my case:
[king]
name = Karel I
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Zikmund

5) sorry, but I'm not sure yet what to do exactly, I am just fixing many and many other kings, queens etc., so that's probably place for Tempest
I guess it's... click to original (not backup!) file, rightclick:
replace content -> of selected file (by specified file)
I hope it's all


Now, how to change your knights' names?
1) open maps\europe\knights\regions_800.ini(or if necessary for your kindgom also regions_1000.ini or regions_1200.ini)
2) regions there can be understood as "nationality of knights"
3) look if "region" corresponds to provinces you mean to edit(to make sure if the nationality is right) in my case it's [moravia], for Croatia it is [serbia]
4) open certain .in2 file So I open "maps\europe\knights\moravia.in2" file
it looks like this:
[rules]
title = xxx(graf)
id = XX(17)

[male]
Xxx (knights' names)

[female]
Xxx(princesses' names)

(before you edit it, make backup)
5)edit it and follow same rules as in all oter cases, this should be IMO enough to edit knights' and princesses' names

I hope you will share your improvements with us too. :)
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so, here are my edits:filename, elvain's notes
europe.pak\maps\europe\knights\moravia.in2
[rules]
title = pan(will try vevoda, but I am not sure yet if completely new title will work)
id = 17 (you should leave this!!)

[male]edited almost all
Bedrich
Jan
Jindrich
Konrad
Miroslav
Oldrich
Ondrej
Ota
Petr
Prokop
Slavata
Vit
Vladimir
Bohuslav
Borivoj
Vladislav
Lukas
Premysl
Svatopluk
Vratislav
Vaclav
Ladislav
Jiri
Daniel
Ctibor
Matyas
Arnost

[female]
Anna
Adela
Anezka
Alzbeta
Eliska
Libuse
Marketa
Marie
Bozena
Blanka
Katerina
Judita
Zdena

europe.pak\maps\europe\knights\armenian.in2
[rules]
title = Doux

id = 19

[male]
Ashot
Sembat
Levon
Thoros
Gagik
Hethum
Jovhannes
Abas
Abusahl
Gurgen
Derenik
David
Vasak
Nerses
Hayk
Antranig
Ara
Armen
Arshavir
Artaxiad
Avarair
Avedis
Bedrosian
Boghos
Dickran
Eznik
Garabed
Hagop
Haig
Haroutyoun
Hoven
Hovsep
Izmirlian
Jirair
Karayan
Kevork
Khachig
Kolb
Korian
Kirkor
Magar
Mesrop
Nishan
Parounag
Sahak
Sion
Tiridates
Vartan
Yervant
Zeroun

[female]
Anahid
Ankine
Anoush
Armenouhie
Gadara
Gadarine
Gayane
Lucine
Margarid
Miriam
Nairi
Serpuhi
Shakeh
Shoushan
Siran
Sirvat
Takouhi
Vartoughi
Voshkie
Zagir
Tamar
Ovsanna
Iskuhi
Zabel

europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;1000.txt
[king]
name = Premysl Ottakar I

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Vladislav

europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;1200.txt
[king]
name = Karel I
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Anna

[prince_1]
name = Vaclav

[prince_2]
name = Zikmund


europe.pak\maps\europe\kings\Bohemia;800.txt
[king]
name = Boleslav II
s_1 = 2,craftsman
s_k = 2,dread

[queen]
name = Emma

[prince_1]
name = Boleslav III

next will come soon. Feel free to add your ideas, paths and edits. Thanks, Elvain :cheers:

PS: @Devs/mods. If you don't like this, feel free to close or delete this

Special thanks to TEMPEST for his PakMan!!! :hug:
when u say open europe acually im kinda new to this and i would like to make some changes how do i open europe file and with what. also can you change the number of starting provinces and units names and will it appear on the pre game map

[Tempest]

There is debug tool used to edit maps into the game available when you start it in debug mode.And is there any chance you tell us how to activate that debug mode?

the solution for this was all the time in front of your noses ;)I fail to see why this is funny.
First of all, a mysterious and undocumented debug mode is hardly something "in front of our noses".
Second of all, this information could have been given out a long time ago.

Special thanks to TEMPEST for his PakMan!!! :hug: :blush: :)
Thanks for sharing your modifications, keep up the good work!! :go:


@ Moonlightseeker and Cro_Knight: Find info on PakMan here (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?t=3255) .

[Cro_Knight]

i got it thanks but how does it work acually if u pm me or say here it would be a big help

[Frujin]

@Tempest: In KoH.ini file in section [app] add this: debugmode = 1

While in debug mode you will always see four red squares into four corners of the screen. The game will run slower than usual and will be very unstable I guess. While in main screen in debug mode press F11 - surprise :)

BUT! have in mind that messing up with the "internals" of the game is the shortest way for you to make it unplayable or crashing. KoH is very very complex thing, guys. Making nice mod will take quite a lot of tries and failures. So, be patient and always have game CD handy :) :)

Also, please notice, that map tool is not offcial part of the game and is available only as debug tool, i.e. AS IS. It will crash, it will mess up the things, so make up your mind.

[Pivi_CT]

Spain Aragon Aragoneese

Elvain, that have the problem that when you reunited all of Penisnula Iberica territories, the game its going to call them "Aragon" and not "Spain", being this not historically exact. Better let on "Spain" or call it "Hispania" or "Los Visigodos".

If you do last two ones, have to create on eu_realms;2 a key-name Spain2 Spain and then go to unite_spain on Defs/Quests directory and change ... rename_kingdom = Spain for rename_kingdom = Spain2 for work correctly :).

I could post here our translated files for this, but are on Spanish the names and that :eek: ...

Hope to help! :D

[Tempest]

@Tempest: In KoH.ini file in section [app] add this: debugmode = 1Such a file doesn't exist. Creating one with the values you specified doesn't have any effect.

[Frujin]

Oh, I meant KoH.in2

located in /Documents and Settings/<current user>/Application Data/Black Sea Studios/Knights of Honor/

[Elvain]

also can you change the number of starting provinces and units names and will it appear on the pre game map
You can mod it. Right now I don't now which files need to be edited, but I will try it, test and post here then :)

[Tempest]

Oh, I meant KoH.in2
located in /Documents and Settings/<current user>/Application Data/Black Sea Studios/Knights of Honor/Gah, always forgetting that dumb directory when looking for KoH stuff. Thanks for the info. :)
I've seen some of these map editor graphics in the pak files, but I thought they wouldn't be used. And you're right, it's not exactly stable. :)
However, the graphical design doesn't look to me as if it was never planned for release. So did you run out of time or what?

[Cro_Knight]

You can mod it. Right now I don't now which files need to be edited, but I will try it, test and post here then :)
thanks alot!!!!