Ancient era history and discussion

[conquestare legionare]

Hello Hello . here is were we will discuss ancient history. Anyone is free to tell history and pick up a topic for discussion just please keep it ancient :cheers: .

[RobinBanks]

I'm pretty sure my dad fits in the catagoy of ancient . . . .

[Richard]

:rofl: , My grandad too.
I have allways been a fan of china/japan ancient history. You know all that samury thing and martial arts. Also the way they try to achive a perfect balance of mind and body, it is all a very neat thing. If anyone would liek to talk about any of this just post some site or something. I would apreaciet it :go:

[Mircoslavux]

hoi,
what do you mean with ancient? Could you date it?

[Elvain]

I guess it is pre-medieval.
so 5th century A.D. and older....

[Mircoslavux]

so then, the slavian in Europe are not ancient :sad: :sick:

[Elvain]

no it is medieval era

[conquestare legionare]

to not keep this topic dead , http://www.roman-empire.net/ Ohh please you guys are so lazy , just pick a darn topic from the site above, and talk about it and wait for a response is that hard? :rolleyes:

[Mircoslavux]

to not keep this topic dead , http://www.roman-empire.net/ Ohh please you guys are so lazy , just pick a darn topic from the site above, and talk about it and wait for a response is that hard? :rolleyes:


Interesting web, I will look at it more bit later.

What about Attila the Hune, is it ancient?

[conquestare legionare]

Yes Attila the hun is ancient , really high ancient era. in that time the Roman empire was divded into 2 parts - western consisted of :Italian pennisula, gaulic celtica(nowdays france) , germania , britannia ,carthage and parts of numidia and almost the hole north african coast from libya to marocko the capital was rome . eastern empire consisted of:greece, dacia, thrace, asia minor(turkey) , egypt , phoenicia, persia and northen arabia, the capital was constantinople. does this intresset you?

[Mircoslavux]

Yes Attila the hun is ancient , really high ancient era. in that time the Roman empire was divded into 2 parts - western consisted of :Italian pennisula, gaulic celtica(nowdays france) , germania , britannia ,carthage and parts of numidia and almost the hole north african coast from libya to marocko the capital was rome . eastern empire consisted of:greece, dacia, thrace, asia minor(turkey) , egypt , phoenicia, persia and northen arabia, the capital was constantinople. does this intresset you?


yes I'm interesting for History overall,
if you are good I need some help to find out about archbishops (names and dates) of Ostrihom (Esterghom) in 13.-14. century.
:eek:

[Mircoslavux]

New form french archeologists:
first neolitic culture was discovered near the city Marseille, dating about 5600-4000 BC.


another story:
Area of Quamram near the Death Sea, some copied handwritings of Bible from about 135 AC very discovered. It is going on Old Testament - Book Levitus.

[Traveller]

First neolitic culture, my a*s! We already discovered a civilization from 6300-6000 BC last year!... :cheers:

But the scriptures news sound more interesting - are they new things (newer "chapters" or something) or just other copies of Levitus?

[Mircoslavux]

First neolitic culture, my a*s! We already discovered a civilization from 6300-6000 BC last year!... :cheers:

But the scriptures news sound more interesting - are they new things (newer "chapters" or something) or just other copies of Levitus?


Yes, but such a culture was not discovered till now in Marssaile's region.


I do not know, maybe copies, there was further notice, that something similar was discovered cca 50 years ago - known as Quamram's letters.
:go:

[Traveller]

Ahh, so it's first for Marseilles! That's better...

I know for the Quamran scriptures, but I'm interested if they find something new, some extension of the different books of the Bible or something like that...

[Mircoslavux]

Ahh, so it's first for Marseilles! That's better...

I know for the Quamran scriptures, but I'm interested if they find something new, some extension of the different books of the Bible or something like that...

there was no notice about the contain of letters....

what do u think about apocryphs? (or how is it called in english) :eek:

[Traveller]

Depends what do you mean by apocryphs. We (as Orthodoxal) have not 66 books in the Bible, but 77 with the 11 so called apocryphs. But I haven't read them. I've heard of other apocryphical books like "The book of Enoh", which (afaik) weren't accepted in the Bible, but are quite interesting. And, of course, there are numerous newer apocryphical books. Our Bogomils (a Bulgarian sect, which later moved to the West and "created" other sects (katars, albigoans etc.)), for example, had their own apocryphical books. I think it would be interesting to find some books like these...

[Mircoslavux]

Depends what do you mean by apocryphs. We (as Orthodoxal) have not 66 books in the Bible, but 77 with the 11 so called apocryphs. But I haven't read them. I've heard of other apocryphical books like "The book of Enoh", which (afaik) weren't accepted in the Bible, but are quite interesting. And, of course, there are numerous newer apocryphical books. Our Bogomils (a Bulgarian sect, which later moved to the West and "created" other sects (katars, albigoans etc.)), for example, had their own apocryphical books. I think it would be interesting to find some books like these...

i booght a book in German. "Verbotene Evangelien" - Forbidden Evangelia?",
but still not read it, then I will let you know.

interesting things are about Thomasus Evangelium...

[Mircoslavux]

Hallo,
interesting:

source: BAZ.ch

Bulgarian archelogist have found a gold treasure 4000 years old near the village of Dabene. 15 000 gold rings were found - reported from Prof. Vassil Nikolov, this treasure ist older than from Schliemanns found treasure in Troja.
The dating of Dabene's found is cca 4100-4200 ago and it was found in a tumb with the ash of welth man.....


maybe some details can be supported from Traveller...
:go:

[Traveller]

Hallo,
interesting:

source: BAZ.ch

Bulgarian archelogist have found a gold treasure 4000 years old near the village of Dabene. 15 000 gold rings were found - reported from Prof. Vassil Nikolov, this treasure ist older than from Schliemanns found treasure in Troja.
The dating of Dabene's found is cca 4100-4200 ago and it was found in a tumb with the ash of welth man.....


maybe some details can be supported from Traveller...
:go:
Well, what could I say without being too immodest? Just another golden treasure that could change the view of world and European history... :wink:
But fiirst, some sites (I haven't read them all btw):
Site 1 (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20050817/sc_afp/bulgariaarcheologygold_050817171341)
Site 2 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8986760/)
Site 3 (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8997876/)
It's exhibited in the National Museum of History since yesterday. As you said, it's a little bit older than Troy's treasures, which might mean that actually the first and biggest gold-crafting centers were not elsewhere, but in Europe (especially since the oldest crafted gold is from here too - from the Varna necropolis; older than this treasure). This means that not "Asians" or "Africans" (in quotas, because today's stereotypes are a little different than ancient Egyptians, Summerians, Babylonians etc.) were exporting their gold products to Europe, but actually the Europeans (aka proto-Thracians) from the mainland were exporting to Troy and beyond, which changes the gold course to the opposite direction. Btw, if I remember right, the quality of some things is just unbeliavable. F.e., in some pearl jewels there are small "halls" (not exactly inscriptions, but still ornamentation), which are so small that it seems impossible to see them (and make them) with unarmed eye; you could see them well enough only with a microscope. Yeah, we had some nice master craftsmen, which amaze even today's specialists... :cheers: