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Kuno of Gersenau
21-05-2004, 14:12
To your first point Elewyn:
Maybe one of the knights is a member of the royal family, Frank said that they can change profession...:scratch:
PS: Thanks Frujin and Frank for answers :go: So you were right Elewyn!
So this means, that "Crusader" is a profession for one of your marshals or king? Or is it for a cleric?
Frank Fay
21-05-2004, 14:15
A royal family member will have a crown icon.
Kuno of Gersenau
21-05-2004, 14:17
What's then the solution, different games? (If you know)
Frank Fay
21-05-2004, 14:18
Only a marshal can become a crusader. And a cleric pope.
Frank Fay
21-05-2004, 14:19
different games? I dont get what you mean by that.
Originally posted by Frujin
About the colors:
Red - Marshall
Green - Landlord
Black - Builder
Gold - Merchant
Purple - Spy
Blue - Cleric
there are (at the moment) 3 more proffessions - not directly "hire-able". You "make" them from other knights:
White/Gold - The Pope
White/Blue - Orthodoxal Patriarch
White/Red - Crusader
:hello: thanks
So, can "governors"(clerics, merchants, landlords or builders or any of them) defend the realm they are governing?
Frujin, didn't you forgot White/Green - Caliph? :) Or muslims don't have religious leader?
Kuno of Gersenau Maybe one of the knights is a member of the royal family, Frank said that they can change profession... He would carry crown, doesn't he?
Frank Fay This Marshal is deployed :) oh. :silly: I found no satisfactory translation of "deployed" :( what do you mean? please :rolleyes:
Gorgoroth
21-05-2004, 14:21
Ah I love the replies by the devs! Infos, infos what we need! :cool:
Kuno of Gersenau
21-05-2004, 14:22
Sorry Frank, I mean different plays with the same kingdom, but at another time, or on two PC's, or however...
Because if you look at the Sreens which Elewyn "linked" in his post, then you see the same portraits, the same kingdom, but other professions...
I hope it's clear now, my English isn't very good...
@Elewyn: I had to look in a dictionary, it means that he is there stationated to protect the town with his army...
I think it's not very probable thet there are 2 plays. On next screens there are same burgundian knight except those 2 who engaged the battle and from notes at the bottom we know that Burgundy had lost that battle.
Thanks, Kuno. None of my dictionaries had that explanation :(
Kuno of Gersenau
21-05-2004, 14:28
Ow, I remarked something, black is builder now... :blush: :bash: I saw it, but didn't thought on that....
So the builder takes also an activ part in the battle if his castle get attcked?
Finellach
21-05-2004, 17:48
I can't wait to see the new site. :)
Btw. I am wondering too....won't Muslim's have religious leader as well? :confused:
Frank Fay
21-05-2004, 18:13
Muslims dont have a single leader. In KoH they dont have one either but as we said, each religion has special features.
Finellach
21-05-2004, 18:18
Most interestng. :)
I looked at those "Arabic-Oriental" screens and it looks great. Perhaps I will try them out...in fact I am sure I will. :D
It will be interesting to learn more about those region specific features.
Drake Maethor
22-05-2004, 10:17
HEY! I'M BACK!!! The man that started all! :D Don't forget about me!
BUT WHAT'VE YOU DONE TO MY THREAD?????
Something like 30 posts...
7 DEVS ANSWERS IN MY ABSENCE! :eek:
So questions were good uh? 8) Thank you!
All right, this is really good. We see many interesting pieces of information here. Including one big announcement: the announcement of the announcement. Next friday promises like many of my country's politicians (and that's a lot to say!), I only hope that friday don't behave like them and so fullfill its promises. :rolleyes:
- All knights have experience levels. Marshals gain experience through combat, Spies through spying and all others through manual "education" with books, which are produced in Libraries or Univiersities or by Clerics.
-The Royal Court is more "complex" that it seems. But these are not all the changes. Many changes were made "below" the surface. The changes were not cosmetic, not at all...
-Muslims dont have a single leader. In KoH they dont have one either but as we said, each religion has special features.
-There are (at the moment) 3 more proffessions - not directly "hire-able". You "make" them from other knights:
White/Gold - The Pope
White/Blue - Orthodoxal Patriarch
White/Red - Crusader
I don't know if it's only me, but things like this are starting to give me shivers down my spine. I got the feeling that these guys are going in the right direction, mixing the right ingredients with mastery and so achieving that exciting and mystical complexity only found in classics... I don't want to speak too much and create false expectations but...
Anyway, and all of you will agree, I think the expectations are already there! :p
So come on guys! keep brewing it! And don't rush anything!!! There are few things worst than a half-cooked game, that otherwise would have turned into a classic. So KEEP BREWING IT!
And then will all enjoy a REALLY GOOD one! :cheers:
But there is still one question ringing in my head... One of those I asked before.
- Since governing is a mission the Knight can be recalled to the Royal Court and to be assigned for other missions, e.g. Merchant can also be assigned on a trade route or sent to another province for governing.
What exactly does this mean??? That when the knight receives his mission, for example governing a province, he leaves the Royal Court? Or is he still in the Royal Court and so occupying one of the "nine seats"?
So, the question is:
DOES HE LEAVE THE ROYAL COURT AND HIS SEAT BECOME AVAILABLE?
If the answer is no, allright, then we got the more-kingdoms-than-knights issue. Maybe its not an issue at all, you just can select some provinces to give bonuses to them. But not to all of them... Mmm anyway that wouldn't sound very exciting.
However what happens if the answer is yes...
If the answer is yes, then he leaves the Royal Court, and his "seat" becomes available. And so you can hire a lot of knights and happyly fill your lands with governors. Then you may end with A LOT of governors!
Normally that wouldn't be a problem... But in this game, Knights do die! Being old age one of the causes. You also got something like 150 realms out there. Imagine for example that you rule 30 of them, you'll be managing 30 governors that can die of old age at any time! And once one of them is dead not only you will have to replace him, but also train the new one! This can be a crazy job.
Imagine, You'll have to select a governor for that province, train him, keep track of his training, and then he is dead: you got to start again. Now multiply that by 30 or your current number of provinces. Do you see what troubles me?
So, how is this handled in the game?
First, do they leave their seats?
If yes, then how you'll avoid turning this game into a crazy medieval version of The Sims, with up to 150 characters to manage? :confused: :D
Quick question Frank,
What happens when a Realm that dose not have a Marshall/Knight is attacked ,
who commands the defending army?.:) :cheers:
Frank Fay
22-05-2004, 13:04
yourself then...
actually a Knight is not commanding, he is leading:)
Finellach
22-05-2004, 16:35
I see devs are quite active here. :D
Anyway Frank can you please answer my question on provinces with different building styles? I mean if you caputure Arabian provinces what build style will that town have? Does it depends on to who owns it or in what region it is?
I hope this screenshot (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/knightsofhonor/screens.html?page=123) will help you.
realm Antioch is held by Byzantines-orthodox nation- but the town of Antiocheia is in arabic style, like all others in region, f.e. Lebanon (http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/knightsofhonor/screens.html?page=124)
It's proving my guess that for style region is important more than ruler. IMO it's also logical. Will look strange to have arabic castle in Scandinavia granted to Fatimids (from Sweden f.e.) or if some scandinavian kingdom converts to islam.
Finellach
22-05-2004, 16:54
Yes that makes sense....I thought so anyway. :D :p
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