No Famous Persons in KoH?

[Emhyr var Emreis]

There is famous persons in the game, King Harald Hardrada the norwegian king who lost at stamford bridge is in the game, so i guess there are famous kings in all of the nations, at least in the beginning of the game! yes, we just were refering to this Frujin's post: There is historical persons/famous persons. But we didn't emphasize too much on them, because we didn't want them to repeat their deeds from the history. KoH is a game about alternative history you can actually do by YOURSELF.

But, yes, there are Hugo Capet, Otto II ... etc. etc. ...

Why you do not post the names of:

King (Emperor, Tzar, Khan, Etc.) / Queen (etc.)
and corresponding
Heir names (both male and female)

for these years:

1000
1200
1350

for the country you belong to ot have info?

(I wonder who will tell us about Teutonic Order", for example.:dwink: )
PS: who had found any female names in Teutonic order's history? some daughters or vives? :D

So, guys, if it's not too late, post some from your contry. Maybe numbers of kings are not as important as the mnames themselves, especially female ones (kings are always easier to find than queens and their daughters :))

[Elvain]

maybe not very important, but just to enrich the game in the next patch...

it would be nice if the names of monarchs and nobles(if given to you) would be fixed.

here are the most frequented Bohemian female names from Premyslid and Luxembourg royal dynasties:

Eliska, Alzbeta, Marketa, Ludmila,Anezka, Anna, Judita, Jitka, Drahomira, Helena I see here no Lenka, most frequented female name of Bohemian princesses in KoH (every generation has it's Lenka and except Anna I haven't seen yet any of those.

To give some names of bohemian kings and dukes, here are the most frequent ones:
Václav(well, he is in game, as Waclav or what :go:, mostly he should be in 1200 and 1350), Vladislav(1000, 1200, 1350), Boleslav(1000), Bretislav(1000), Premysl or Otakar(1200), Jindrich (1200, 1350), Karel (1350), Jan(1350), Spytihnev (100, possibly also 1200), Oldrich (1000)
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I also found some not very well known nation's kings and princes: ARMENIAN
so here they are:

princes of Ani in 9th to 11th century, Bagratunid dynasty(from Ashot Bagratuni)
Ashot (861-890)
Smbat/Sembat (890-914)
Ashot II. (914-929)
Abas (929-953)
Ashot III. (953-977)
Sembat II. (977-989)
Gagik (989-1020)
Sembat III. (1020-1042)
Ashot IV. (1020-1042)
Gagik II. (1042-1045)

princes of Vaspurakan in 9th to 11th century, Arc'runid dynasty:
Gagik (908-943)
Derenik (943-958 )
Abusahl (958-968 )
Ashot (968-990)
Gurgen (990-1003)
Senekherim (990-1006)
David (no data)
Gagik (Gagik Bagratuni, above)

barons/kings(since 1196) of Little Armenia in Cilicia in 11th to 14th century:
Ruben (1080-1095)
Konstantin (1095-1099)
Thoros (1099-1129)
Leo (1129-1137)
1137-1145 under Byzantine rule
Thoros II. (1145-1168/9)
Ruben II. (1168/9-1170)
Mleh (1170-1175)
Thoros III. (1175-1187)
Leo II. (1187-1216/ since 1196 king as Leo I.

Kings:
Leo I. (1196-1216/9)
Bohemund-Ruben (1216-1219)
Zabel (1219-1252, queen!)
Hethum I. (1226-1270)
Leo II. (III., 1270-1289)
Hethum II. (1289-1293, 1295-1301, 1307) *1293-1295 interregnum
Leo III. (1301-1307)
Okhin (1308-1320)
Leo IV. (1320-1342)
Guy de Lusignan as Konstantin II. (1342-1344)
Konstantin III. (1344-1363)
Konstantin IV. (1363-1373)
Leo V. (1373-1375)

so, in brief, most frequented king/prince names for Armenia:
1000: Ashot (5), Sembat (3), Gagik (3), Abas, Derenik, Abusahl, Gurgen, Senekherim, David
1200: Leo (4), Thoros (3), Ruben (3), Hethum (2), Mleh,
1350: Konstantin (3), Leo (2), Okhin
FEMALE: Zabel

My sources for Armenia:
Burchard Brentjes - Arménie, 3 tisíce let dejin a kultury (german original: Drei Jahrtausende Armenien)
Anna Elisabeth Redgate - Arméni (english original: The Armenians)

[FrankishKnight]

I am surprised noone mentioned William of Normandy as famous yet? ( you start out with him ;-) )

Also I noticed Healfdan as king of Norway.

EDIT: YAY! First post!

[Elvain]

I guess he wasn't mentioned coz nobody expected that he could be forgotten :)

PS: Welcome on the forums :cheers:

[FrankishKnight]

Thank you!

And interesting theory...

[Lord-Piecemeal]

I have read through both threads, with all those names from History.

And aplaud them all.

But you have Left out the most Important names: That being the one's you choose to play with in the game, Is that not the most Important name in the game.

Why put any more in, You can choose to play that person you think best if you want from history.

No need for lists and more lists.

Earl piecemeal: is My famous name.

[Mircoslavux]

Here I put some " Lords" of Slovakian Area. We shared the history mostly with other nations - Moravians, Czechs, HUngarians, Austrians, ...

Samo 623 - 665 Samo Empire
Prince Pribina of Nitra 803 and Prince Vratislav, Lord of the Bratislava Castle 805
Prince Mojmír, from the Moravian principality 833-852
Prince Pribina the Lord of the Slavs, occupying the Transdanubian Pannonia till 861
Prince Kocel, the principality of Balaton until 876
Prince Rastislav I from 853-871
King Svätopluk 872-894
King Mojmír II and his brother Svätopluk II 895-907
Gejza lord of Magyars till 997
Vajko (the future St. Stephen I) around 1000

The Slovakian territories were, at the beginning of the existence of the Hungarian Kingdom, the object of frequent and long battles between them and the neighboring country sovereigns.
The Kingdom of Hungary
Arpads dynasty (1000 - 1526) during that time was very interesting person:
Matthew Csák III (of Trenčín) (Matúš Čák III (Trenčiansky), (about 1260 – 1321) was the ruler of the Váh and the Tatras region, and lived in Trenčín castle in Slovakia.

Habsburgs Dynasty from 1526 to 1918

[Drake Maethor]

Is funny to receive this message in make mail inbox after so long time :p :
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[Traveller]

Hey, Drake, welcome back! Haven't seen you for a long time! Good thing Mircoslavux "revived" you... :cheers:

Btw Happy 9th of July (with some delay)! :cheers:

[maladominus]

If no famous ppl in the game, i think they should kingdom advantages that are tied with famous ppl, like, for example.:
..::King Arthur's war manual, gives kingdom bonus for battles
..::Merlin's Journal, gives cleric increased ability to convert other
armies..
stuff like that would be cool i think?


Yeah. And they should add a +5 Mithril Short Sword of Plundering for all Marshals.

And goblins and orc armies. And the Gnomish Ninja Death Squad of Doom.

[Traveller]

Hey, that's a good idea, Maladominus! Maybe in an expansion... :wink:

Just imagine the Elvish and Dwarven armies, standing against the Golden Horde or the Crusaders! And there's Aragorn with his lvl 3 Leadership and lvl 2 Healing... Eehh, I'm dreaming again...

[Drake Maethor]

Hey, Drake, welcome back! Haven't seen you for a long time! Good thing Mircoslavux "revived" you... :cheers:

Btw Happy 9th of July (with some delay)! :cheers:

Hahahahaah!
Thanks!
And you remember 9th of July, incredible! :cheers: