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Bora
03-03-2004, 11:51
Hi!

i just read that thread:

http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=675

and it sounds that it means that you also wount play as/with
guys like king richard, robert de breuce or willam wallace.
so please correcvt me if i am wrong!

Bora
18-03-2004, 19:15
a long time ago i opened this thread, but still no answer :(

so i like to know if there are any famous persons (kings, knights) in the game?

ArmosaDrako
18-03-2004, 19:30
If no famous ppl in the game, i think they should kingdom advantages that are tied with famous ppl, like, for example.:
..::King Arthur's war manual, gives kingdom bonus for battles
..::Merlin's Journal, gives cleric increased ability to convert other
armies..
stuff like that would be cool i think?

hulkster225
18-03-2004, 20:59
I don't think they should go as far as the stuff in King Arthur, thats more like myth, wizards don't really fit into this game.

Bora
19-03-2004, 00:14
Originally posted by ArmosaDrako
If no famous ppl in the game, i think they should kingdom advantages that are tied with famous ppl, like, for example.:
..::King Arthur's war manual, gives kingdom bonus for battles
..::Merlin's Journal, gives cleric increased ability to convert other
armies..
stuff like that would be cool i think?

you are comeing again with your king arthur stuff ;)
i am talking about REAL persons :)

so i just ask if some famous person of medieval will be in.

rado907
19-03-2004, 15:37
there WILL be famous persons, from what I've understood.
your kings and knights will be chosen of a pool of historical names, I believe.

Kuno of Gersenau
19-03-2004, 16:09
I don't think so, that would be too less names i guess. But I think there are historical (in a Screenshot you can see Harald Hardraade) AND not historical names....

Bora
19-03-2004, 18:59
post what ever you want guys, i wait for the answer of frank&frujin :D

Kuno of Gersenau
19-03-2004, 19:05
LOL, then let's wait an have a drink meanwile...:cheers:

Frujin
19-03-2004, 21:15
There is historical persons/famous persons. But we didn't emphasize too much on them, because we didn't want them to repeat their deeds from the history. KoH is a game about alternative history you can actually do by YOURSELF.

But, yes, there are Hugo Capet, Otto II ... etc. etc. ...

Why you do not post the names of:

King (Emperor, Tzar, Khan, Etc.) / Queen (etc.)
and corresponding
Heir names (both male and female)

for these years:

1000
1200
1350

for the country you belong to ot have info?

(I wonder who will tell us about Teutonic Order", for example. :dwink: )

Elewyn
19-03-2004, 21:23
There is historical persons/famous persons. But we didn't emphasize too much on them, because we didn't want them to repeat their deeds from the history. KoH is a game about alternative history you can actually do by YOURSELF.

But, yes, there are Hugo Capet, Otto II ... etc. etc. ...

Why you do not post the names of:

King (Emperor, Tzar, Khan, Etc.) / Queen (etc.)
and corresponding
Heir names (both male and female)

for these years:

1000
1200
1350

for the country you belong to ot have info?

(I wonder who will tell us about Teutonic Order", for example. :dwink: ) You asked, my lord...
wait a little, I have them all!!!! :D

Are those years entry points? I guess yes. I'm disapointed (not really) there won't be Frankkish empire (And I should remake maps :angry: :))

Frujin
19-03-2004, 21:56
Hey hey .. please do not check out Franks so easily :)

Elewyn
19-03-2004, 22:09
In year 1000??? :)

Are those dates entry points?
1000in France(kgdm of Franks) ruled Robert the saint, Hugo Capet 4years dead :bash: :yawn:

Grand masters of teutonic order were:
in 1200 Otto von Kerpen
in 1350 Heinrich Dusemer :D

Frujin
19-03-2004, 22:20
Hm .. let's say we just seek more info for these years.

I know about poor Hugo, but somehow you can't be VERY exact in games. The reality is usually much more complex than games and rarely that entertaining. As someone said - "Life is damn stupid RPG ... but waw ... what a graphics .. "

:)

LadyH
19-03-2004, 22:20
Beatrix von Savoyen
lived 1223 until 10.5.1257/58
female margrave of Saluzzo
queen of Sicily 1258
married with Manfred III. (1210-1244)
king of of Sicily 1258
son of
Bonifazius, margrave of Saluzzo
1183-1212

Frujin
19-03-2004, 22:28
Originally posted by Elewyn

but :(entrypoints? [/B]

Just assume my question was not related to them, please.

LadyH
19-03-2004, 22:34
Kings of Kastilien (Spain)

Sancho III. von Navarra - 1000-1035
Ferdinand I. von León, 1035-1065
Sancho II. - 1065-1072
García II. - 1065-1071
Alfons VI., 1072-1073
Urraca von Kastilien, 1109-1126
Alfons VII., 1126-1157
Sancho III., 1157-1158
Alfons VIII., 1158-1214

Kings of Kastilien and León

Alfons IX. von León1188-1230
Heinrich I., 1214-1217
Berenguela von Kastilien, 1217
Ferdinand III. der Heilige, 1217-1252
Alfons X. der Weise, 1252-1284
Sancho IV., 1284-1295
Ferdinand IV., 1295-1312
Alfons XI., 1312-1350
Peter I. von Kastilien der Grausame, 1350-1369

Spanish monarchs - list in german (http://www.net-lexikon.de/Spanien-Liste-der-Herrscher.html)

French monarchs - list in german (http://www.net-lexikon.de/Frankreich-Liste-der-Herrscher.html)

Bora
20-03-2004, 00:37
King Edward the 1st (edward longshanks) 1272-1307 AD

here a interesting link:

http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon30.html



Robert the Bruce 1274-1329 AD



Sir William Wallace 1270-1305 AD

German Kaiser of the Roman Empire of German Nation:
(also the Hauses (family/dynastie) of the Kaisers are shown)

there are more Kaisers but i show them from about 1000 AD till
about 1350 AD. there is also shown since when the person was kaiser

i also translated the "too german words"

here the source of my post:

http://userpage.chemie.fu-berlin.de/diverse/bib/de-kks.html

some of them also had nicknames. if you need a translation of them, i do it.

Ottonen (sächsisches Haus)
936-973 Otto I., der Große
*912-11-23, +973-05-07, since 962 Kaiser
973-983 Otto II.
*955, +983-12-07, since 961 King of Germany, since 967 Kaiser
983-1002 Otto III.
*980, +1002-01-23, since 996 römischer Kaiser
1002-1024 Heinrich II.
*973-05-06, +1024-07-13, since 1014 Kaiser

Salier (fränkisches Haus)
1024-1039 Konrad II.
*um 990, +1039-06-04, since 1027 Kaiser
1039-1056 Heinrich III.
*1017-10-28, +1056-10-05, since 1046 Kaiser
1056-1106 Heinrich IV.
*1050-11-11, +1106-08-07, since 1084 Kaiser
1106-1125 Heinrich V.
*1081, +1125-05-23, since 1111 Kaiser

Supplinburger
1125-1137 Lothar III.
+1137-12-03, since 1133 Kaiser

Staufer (Hohenstaufen)
1138-1152 Konrad III.
*1093 oder 1094, +1152-02-15
1152-1190 Friedrich I., Barbarossa
*um 1122, +1190-06-10, since 1155 Kaiser
1190-1197 Heinrich VI.
*1165, +1197-09-28, since 1191 Kaiser

Welfen
1198-1218 Otto IV. von Braunschweig
*about 1174, +1218-05-19, since 1209 Kaiser

Staufer (Hohenstaufen)
1198-1208 Philipp von Schwaben
*about 1180, +1208-06-21
1212-1250 Friedrich II.
*1194-12-26, +1250-12-13, since 1220 Kaiser
1250-1254 Konrad IV.
*1228-04-25, +1254-05-21

Interregnum
1247-1256 Wilhelm von Holland
*1227, +1256-01-28
1257-1274 Alfons X. von Kastilien
*1226, +1284-04-04
1257-1272 Richard von Cornwall
*1209, +1272-04-02

different Hauses:
1273-1291 Rudolf I. von Habsburg
*1218-05-01, +1291-07-15
1292-1298 Adolf von Nassau
*about 1250, +1298-07-02
1298-1308 Albrecht I. von Habsburg
*about 1250, +1308-05-01
1308-1313 Heinrich VII. von Luxemburg
*about 1275, +1313-08-24, since 1312 Kaiser
1314-1347 Ludwig IV., der Bayer (Wittelsbach)
*1287, +1347-10-11, seit 1328 römischer Kaiser
1314-1330 Friedrich der Schöne, von Österreich
*um 1286, +1330-01-13
1346-1378 Karl IV. von Luxemburg
*1316-05-14, +1378-11-29, seit 1355 römischer Kaiser

LadyH
20-03-2004, 07:48
Habsburg dynasty is well known
look at this page
Habsburg Biographies (http://www.antiquesatoz.com/habsburg/) (english)
and
http://www.habsburg.ch/portrait/portrait.asp (german)

Elewyn
22-03-2004, 16:16
Here the most fampous rulers of Bohemia:
dukes:
Boleslav (Boleslaus) the Great (rule:935-972)
Vladislav II. (1140-1172, since 1158 king of Bohemia)
kings:
Przemysl, called also Otokar I. (1197-1230, since 1198 hereditary king of Bohemia)
Przemysl Otokar II. (1253-1278 )
Vaclav II. (1283-1305)
John the Blind (1310-1346)
Karl (1346-1378, since 1346 roman king, since 1355 emperor)

Most famous emperors of Byzantine emp:
Justinian (527-565)
Herakleios (610-642, rebuilder of the empire)
Basileios II. Bulgaroktonos (976-1025)
Konstantinos IX. Monomachos (1042-1055)
Alexios Komnenos (1081-1118 )
Ioannes II. Komnenos (1118-1143)
Manuel Komnenos (1143-1180)
Alexios Angelos (1194-1203)
Michael Palaiologos (1259-1282)
Manuel Palaiologos (1391-1425)

Emperors of Trapezunt (Trabzonide emp.)
Alexios I. Komnenos (1204-1222)
Andronikos (1222-1235)
Ioannes (1235-1241)
Manuel (1241-1263)
Andronikos II. (1263-1266)
Georgios (1266-1280)
Ioannes II. (1280-1298 )
Alexios II. (1298-1330)
Andronikos III. (1330-1332)
Basileios (1332-1340)
Ioannes III. (1340-1344)
Michael (1344-1349)
Alexios III. (1349-1390)
Manuel III. (1390-1417)
Alexios IV. (1417-1446)
Ioannes IV. (1446-1458 )
David (1458-1461)

Emperors of Nicaea
Theodoros Laskaris (1204-1222)
Ioannes Dukas (1222-1254)
Theodoros II. Laskaris (1254-1258 )
Ioannes Laskaris (1258-1261)
Michael Palaiologos (1261-1282. since 1261 emperor of Romanoi=byzantine emperor.)

Most important caliphs of Cordoba:
Abdar-Rahman III. (912-961)
Hisham II. (976-1009)

mos important doge of Venice
Pietro Orseolo II. (991-1009) candidate of Hungarian throne
Enrico Dandolo (1192-1205)
Andrea Dandolo (1343-1354)

Wales:
Rhodi Mawr (844-878 )
Cynan (999-1005)
Llywelyn II. (1194-1240)

few of kings of Sicily
Naples:
Robert Guiscard (1057-1085)
Sicily:
Roger I. (1061-1109)
Roger II. (1127-1154)
Tankred (1189-1194)
Manfred (1258-1266)
Apulia:
Guillaime de Hauteville (1043-1046)

My trip to important rulers goes on:

Dukes of Milan:
Umberto Visconti (1267-1277)
Matteo the Great (1295-1322)
Galeazzo (1355-1378)

doge of Genoa:
Simone Boccanegra (1339-1344)

rulers for Tuscany:
Giovanni di Medici (1406-1429, Florence)
Pietro Gambacorti (1370-1392, Pisa)

counts of Savoie:
Umberto (1027-1048) first count
Amadeo (1391-1433)

dukes of Poland:
Mieszko I. (962-992)
Boleslav the Brave (992-1025, since 1025 king)
kings:
Kazimir the Great (1333-1370)

dukes of Wroclaw(Silesia):
Henry (Henryk) the Pious (1338-1241, looser of Legnica)
Henry IV. (1266-1290)

counts of Tolouse:
Raimund de Saint Gilles (1088-1105)
Alfons I. Jordan (1112-1148)

counts of Flandres:
Baudouin IX. (1195-1205)
Robert II. (1093-1111)

dukes of Bretagne:
Conan le Tort (around 1000)
Arthur Plantagenet (1196-1203)
Pierre Mauclerc (1213-1250)
Jean de Montfort (1364-1399)

*ruler (only his rule)