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Elvain
04-11-2004, 15:56
It's a pity...

one offtopic note baout this:
It hurt me a uch that I tried at least 5-6 shops in Prague some week after the release and there was 1 last pack of KoH in the last one and no possibility to order it. In Prague it is almost like to say in the Czech republic. How is this possible. I know this is a question for the distribiutor, but it was terrible experience for me.

I was absolutely shocked when in 3 shops in line they told me there is no way for them to order it. Hey, this is the Czech republic, the game is expensive enough for local buers and there is no pack left to be ordered. Nobody will ask anybody to make illegal copy when he can't get this game in any shop.

I couldn't believe my eyes to see the distributor underestimating KoH and the Czech rep. that much!!!!

Finellach
06-11-2004, 01:07
Elvain your proposition of renaming Istria to Slavonia is wrong since Slavonia never had any sea. Furthermore Slavonia should be up to the north. As I said Panonia should be renamed to Slavonia and Istria to Croatia with capitaly city/fortress name changes. I have maps with wich I can confirm this.

Regarding the rest of provinces renaming I agree.

I also noticed more historical mistakes around Croatia.
1000 A.D. starting point Bosnia should not exist, it should be part of Croatia, not vassal or independent just part of Croatia.
1200 A.D. Bosnia should be vassal of Hungary
1350 A.D. Bosnia should be vassal of Hungary

Cro_Knight
06-11-2004, 01:43
yes and slavonia should be part of croatia croatian provinces should be:
Dalmatia
Istria<Croatia>
Panonia<Slavonia>
Bosnia
croatia should have 4 provinces instead of 2 in the game i think the baltics were rushed they have alot of problems and errors also Ban instead of Despot

Cro_Knight
06-11-2004, 01:51
I just noticed another thing....Austrian ruler is a King?!?! Austria was never a kingdom. So I ask that it is renamed to Archduke and Arcduchy or if that is not posibble than to Emperor and Empire.
what age are you reffering to as when austria never had a kingdom because im sure they did and maybe a possible expansion where there is the colonies like america and mexico for and canada and south american countries for us guys and gal in the western hemisphere over here

Finellach
06-11-2004, 01:51
I must point out that after some time of playing this game I am kinda disappointed with the map. I mean we disucced it so many times and provided sources and the map is really bad. Provinces in the wrong places, capital towns with wrong names, etc, etc...

In some points map is very good, but in some it's totally wrong. Overall map is missing some key provinces.

Cro_Knight
06-11-2004, 01:52
was there ever a romanian empire?

Finellach
06-11-2004, 01:55
what age are you reffering to as when austria never had a kingdom because im sure they did and maybe a possible expansion where there is the colonies like america and mexico for and canada and south american countries for us guys and gal in the western hemisphere over here

I am talking about 1350 scenario where Austria is indepedant. Austria was never a kingdom. It was a duchy or as they liked to call it "Archduchy". The thing is that they later, as rulers of Austria were Habsburgs, became "Empire". Habsburgs were Holy Roman Emperors but somewhere in the later ages, 17th/18th century, they abolished HRE title and started calling ithemseleves "Emperors of Austria".

was there ever a romanian empire?

No. "Romania" as such didn't existed until 19th century when Kingdom of Romania was formed. Until that time it was divided between several principalities: Wallachia, Transylvania and Moldavia. They also obtained Dobrudja.

Cro_Knight
06-11-2004, 04:45
thank you very much finellach u are really a history buff but does anyone know the site where you can buy KOH from america

OSDSET
06-11-2004, 12:26
i would love to see more to single player quick battles such as
-more places(e.g camp assult, fortified camp assult, river crossing)
-option to chose your army and kight experience or weak/medium/strong
-if want you could chose enermy army and kight experience or just random easy/medium/hard
thx cya

Finellach
08-11-2004, 18:33
I looked carefully on all whole map of Europe and found many mistakes.

These are ALL counties that need a name changing(of course capital cities need to be renamed as well so I'll put them in brackets, those that don't have city in the brackt have the same city name as the province):

Bavaria -> Swabia(Ulm)
Salzburg -> Bavaria(Augsburg)
Nassau -> Thuringhia(Erfurt)
Hesse -> Nassau
Pfalz -> Lorraine(Metz)
Lorraine -> Luxemburg
Alsace -> Burgundy(Dijon)
Burgundy -> Dauphine(Lyon)
Catalonia -> Barcelona
Languedoc -> Toulouse
Lisbon -> Porto
Tago -> Lisbon
Leon -> Galicia - (Vigo)
Galicia(Polish) -> Galicz
Castilla -> Asturias(Oviedo)
Panonia -> Slavonia(Zagreb)
Istria -> Croatia(Senj)
Solun -> Thessaloniki(Solun)
Moesia -> Turnovo
Karvuna -> Dobrudzha(Karvuna/Varna)
Dacia -> Wallachia(Bucharest)
Carpatia -> Nitra(Kosice)
Gotaland -> Västergötland(West Gotaland) (Göteborg)
Svealand -> Östergötland(East Gotaland) (Kalmar)
Jutland -> Slesvig(Viborg)
Norrland -> Svealand(Uppsala)
Oslo -> Akershus(Oslo)
Hordaland -> Bergen
Villnus -> Podlasia(Grodno)
Buda -> Pressburg(Bratislava)
Hungaria -> Pest
Kilikia -> Cilicia(Tarsus)
Karelia -> Bjarmia(Arkhangelsk)
Nyland -> Karelia(Kirilov)
Yedisan -> Pereyaslavl
Arkhangelsk -> Hlynov
Kuban ->Abkhazia(Sukhum)
Kurdistan -> Edessa
Antalya -> Lykia(Lethoon)
Lebanon -> Tyre(Lebanon)
Arabia -> Akaba
Al Djazair -> Alger(Al Djazair)
Napoli -> Naples
Rome -> Romagna(Rome)
Bretagne -> Brittany(Rennes)
East Anglia -> Anglia(London)
Cambria -> Wales(Caernarfon)
Stratchclyde -> Lothian(Edinburgh)

Provinces that only need a capital city name change:
Raska - Ras
Zeta - Kotor

Arcador
08-11-2004, 20:49
the map of europe?
errr?
WHAT AGE map of europe and what LANGUAGE map of europe?

Finellach
08-11-2004, 22:28
the map of europe?
errr?

WHAT AGE map of europe and what LANGUAGE map of europe?

The map is the same for all ages. Also I am talking about English version of course.

Btw. the province of "Palestina" should be renamed to 'Palestine'. This would be the correct english spelling.

Grallon
08-11-2004, 23:18
Break down the map into smaller counties (2-3 would fit in one as it is now)
A map & scenario editor
More diplomacy
Find a way to up the costs or lower the revenus - the game is *awash* with money
Some sort of timer
Technologies to get the units
Wonders or great projects.

4 terrain types per cities instead of 3 : If you want a cathedral AND a University in one city that's what you need.


G.

Finellach
09-11-2004, 18:01
Spelling corrections:

Palestina -> Palestine
Sardenia -> Sardinia

Also there are some historical inaccuracies which I will point out in my next post.

Potion
12-11-2004, 01:40
One thing that absolutely needs to be fixed in this game...the one thing that is screwing it up is how when your king dies with no heirs you loose all your provinces besides your starting ones. I was so mad when this happened to me GRRRRRRRRR. In real life if the king died with no heir someone would take charge as this game does, but the person in charge would not just hand back all the provinces they had conquered. Please, please fix this, if someone in charge is reading

Cro_Knight
12-11-2004, 04:01
yes psot this around in other threds to get your voice heard

Finellach
13-11-2004, 23:46
I think some units should be fixed and added in certain provinces.

For example make Spahis, Mamluks, Akinjis, Janissaries(especially) muslim only.
Add Janissaries in Balkans in Hellas, Thrace, Solun(Thessaloniki), Tyrnovo(Moesia), Bdin, Bosnia, Raska, Zeta and Wallachia(Dacia).

Make Templars and Teutonic Knighst catholics only. Add Templars in Middle East(Palestine and Lebanon,)

Add Normans in South Italy(Apulia). Maybe Roman Infantry as well.

Finellach
14-11-2004, 03:28
Historical inaccuracies

1000 A.D.
Add County of Flanders and make them vassal of France.
Add County of Toulouse, vassal of France
Add province of Bosnia to Croatia
Add Principality of Raska, vassal of Bulgaria
Make Zeta(Dioclea) vassal of Bulgaria
Unite Wessex, East Anglia and York into England(England was already united under Saxons kings)
Make Burgundy a Kingdom not Duchy
Make Hungary a Principality not Kingdom
Make Italy and Bohemia vassals of Germany(HRE)
Add Kingdom of Abkhazia at the province of Kuban(needs to be renamed as pointed out before)

1200 A.D.
Add County of Flanders and Toulouse(Languedoc), vassal's of France
Make Bosnia vassal of Hungary
Remove Serbia and add Principalities of Raska and Zeta
Add County of Provence, vassal of Germany
Make Duchy of Pommerania vassal of Denmark not Germany
Add County of Moravia, vassal of Germany
Add Silesia and Mazovia
Unite Naples and Sicily into Kingdom of Sicily
Add Principality of Galicia and Volhynia
Add Wallachia

1350 A.D.
Unite Leinster, Ulster and Munster into Ireland
Add Duchy of Aquitaine, vassal of England(make it playable not just province in possesion of Eng.)
Add Kingdom of Bosnia, vassal of Hungary
Make Principality of Wallachia vassal of Hungary
Add Duchy of Mazovia, vassal of Poland
Make County of Provence, vassal of Naples

Cro_Knight
14-11-2004, 03:38
shouldnt bosnia be in croatia all through the time periods and i think the adding of countries will make the game easier beacuase it is easier to conquer a small country with one province and then a strong country with 12 provinces or to a smaller consent 4 or 5

Finellach
14-11-2004, 03:59
No. Bosnia started to gain more independance in the 13th century as most Croatian noblitiy found a way through it from a rather forced union with Hungary in 1102.

Also as far as I could see there is greater chance that this small country will conquer the country with 12 provinces. :D

Thats a huge problem that needs to be fixed in the patch, countries should not conquer each other so easily and big kingdoms should not fall apart just like that.