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Jarlabanke
04-11-2003, 16:34
*COUGH* *COUGH* If you got Norway and Denmark you got to have Sweden.
I'd guess that Sweden will be there in the final version, don't worry! After all, Sweden covers a huge area of land, and it would be stupid to leave it empty!:bday:
Originally posted by Jarlabanke
*COUGH* *COUGH* If you got Norway and Denmark you got to have Sweden.
Not necessarily. It depends on what time the game is starting in. Sweden was not always a souvereign kingdom. (Sweden only appears in the 10th century and is subject to the Norwegians after their union in the 14th.
But you are right, for the middle period, Sweden will likely have to be a playable side.
If you go through the Gamespot screenshots you can clearly see on the Mini-Map in the bottom right corner that there is indeed England, Scottland, Ireland, & Wales. One of the Mini-maps shows the British Isles broken up into provinces, Cork & Dublin(Ireland),Ulster, London, Mercia, Cornwall(England), Wales(Wales), and Scottland, but I couldn't tell if it was one province or 2.
I have seen Banners from England, France, Bavaria, Scottland, Ireland, and I believe Sweden, Sky Blue with Yellow Trim. The Scottish Banner has the White X, Ireland is Green, England is Red with 3 Lions, France is Dark Blue with three French Symbols.
This game is shaping up very nice. Hopefully the AI will be a worthy opponent.
Could you point me to where you saw that Bavarian flag? Thx
The Bavarian Fag is in one of the gamespot screenies, I'll find it after work tonite.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/knightsofhonor/screens.html?page=46
Hopefully, this works...Bavarian Screenshot!
I see. Thanks :)
However, that's the Reichsadler, the crest of the HRE. Bavaria would likely be blue/white. Bavaria is just a province then. Interestingly, the city is called 'Bavaria', not Regensburg, Augsburg, Passau or Nurnberg as one might have expected.
Originally posted by Moorkh
Not necessarily. It depends on what time the game is starting in. Sweden was not always a souvereign kingdom. (Sweden only appears in the 10th century and is subject to the Norwegians after their union in the 14th.
But you are right, for the middle period, Sweden will likely have to be a playable side.
More like subject to Denmark, right? But no, I don't think Sweden is a very interesting country in the period, except if you want to reenact all the wars with Denmark, but I think that's on a smaller scale than this game. I bet Jarlabanke was just feeling nationalistic.
Factually, yes, under a Danish king - but only after 1389 and the union of Kalmar. Before that, they were part of an Union with Norway, where the power rested with the Norwegian party at least after Haakon VI.'s coronation.
Strange that I never heard about that. I have to check it up.
Jarlabanke
05-11-2003, 12:52
Sweden, a subject to Norway?? you've got it all mixed up, the union was between Sweden, Denmark and Norway. Sweden rebelled and Denmark (which was the leading nation) never really got hold of us. The union lasted with interupptions for about 50-70 years. Norway on the other hand did not brake free from Denmark and was under Danish rule until Sweden took it 1814.
And don't forget that finland was Swedish back then. And though Sweden wasn't much at that period you musn't forget the part we played in the east.
Not really that much into Scandinavian history, but how else would you characterize Swedish-Norwegian relations during the reign of Haakon VI and that of Magnus Eriksson before him, then?
Magnus Eriksson was crowned King of Sweden at the age of three, and had inherited the Norwegian crown from his grandfather, since his mother was a Norwegian princess. There was a revolution and Magnus Eriksson's son Håkan (Haakon) was crowned King of Norway, while Magnus's son Erik was crowned King of Sweden alongside his father.
So it was actually the other way around, even if that union with Norway wasn't very long.
Jarlabanke
05-11-2003, 21:04
his mother was a Norwegian princess and his father a Swedish Duke.
I thought I had read somewhere that Erik and especially Haakon were more Norwegian than Swedish - maybe because he was of Norwegian royal line - making the Norwegian nobles the ones in power within the union. But I guess this leaves a lot of room open for interpretation...
Jarlabanke
06-11-2003, 11:43
The Norwegians weren't even present at his cronation as they thought it was a sign of a stronger union than they hada expected
A slightly different subject: Will we get non- christian nations in this game, E.G: The Turks, the Mongols and the Moors and all the extra units and architectural styles that they'll bring? It may take a bit of extra hard work to create all the new units etc., but it really would make the game even more interesting.:)
In KoH we have units which naturally do not comes from Europe.
Are they playable? And then I don't mean mercenaries, but more like, could I play a moorish kingdom, or similar?
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