What nations can you play?

[WAR_PIG]

I don't mean to harp, but..........does any know if the game will allow you the option to play as an established realm or a rebel faction?
Thanks

[Henrik]

As far as i know we'll only be able to play as an established realm - though there has been some of us which has expressed that we also would like to start as rebels - i'll guess we just have to see about that one ;)

[Emhyr var Emreis]

Hey, guys, have you seen this yet?
Originally posted by Frank Fay
Give us bit more time... we will reveal soon all fractions. Sorry to ask again for some patience :angel:
Just when I saw it first I became very stressed and impatient when will it be :D Go on, Frank. We're waiting and looking forward :cheers::cheers: :cheers:
*hopes it won't be long or gets...*
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:

[Henrik]

I really hope that we will have some news about the different fractions in KOH ( and all the other stuff ;) ) - and it better be TODAY than TOMORROW :p

[Emhyr var Emreis]

hehe, TODAY it will be nice :D but do you really believe it? in Germany is now after 9 p.m. :D

[Overdose]

give it to me toddddddday :D

[Cork2]

Patiance is a virtue.:cheers:

[Frank Fay]

Sorry guys, not today or this week.

Let me explain why:

The designers at BSS are the moment "nailing" down the three entry scenarios. Means all parameters are there, only the kingdom names and flags are missing. If this procedure is completed, then we will let you know. But we do not want to rush it. Also some balancing issues are involved there (too much kingdom?, too big kingdoms? etc.)

[WAR_PIG]

Take your time! Looking forward to the game which will probably set the new standard!:king: :go:

[Henrik]

Originally posted by Frank Fay
Sorry guys, not today or this week.

Let me explain why:

The designers at BSS are the moment "nailing" down the three entry scenarios. Means all parameters are there, only the kingdom names and flags are missing. If this procedure is completed, then we will let you know. But we do not want to rush it. Also some balancing issues are involved there (too much kingdom?, too big kingdoms? etc.)

That's really nice info we've got there from ya Frank :go:

It's "almost" like a designers dairy (http://forum.sunflowers.de/showthread.php?s=&threadid=425&highlight=diary) :angel:

I think that it's quite exciting to know what the BSS team are currently doing :) - it's giving us, the fans, a better understanding about how a game is made and which isseues BSS has to deal with along the way......

So can we please have MORE of this stuff :) - it doesn't have to a whole page of info - just something like : "In this following week we have planned to......."

[Elewyn]

Guys, good info for us.
Teutonic order is gonna be a nation, in late entry point at least.:cheers: :cheers:

[Konrad II]

Does anyone know if Poland is gonna be in 100%?

[Jorghan]

Huh. If you start in a year when Poland exists, it should definitly be in. Would be pretty crazy otherwise. But only the devs know for sure.

[Elewyn]

I think that since high midage Poland was significant part of Europe. And even if it was divided for members of house Piasts, thoseduchies were still parts of Poland with ruling polsh aristocracy (only Silesia became mixture of Polish and german aristocracy with bohemian king as their feudal overlord)

[Henrik]

I couldn't imagine that Poland should be left out, coz like Elewyn mentioned they had Duke Henry II of Silesia, also known as Henry the Pious - who fought against the mongols - this happened on April 9, 1241, when he and his army marched out of his city of Liegnitz (now the Polish city of Legnica) to meet the dreaded Mongols.

[Frank Fay]

Poland will be in 10000% sure....:D

[Elewyn]

Originally posted by Frank Fay
Poland will be in 10000% sure....:D Good news for hope left for Poland. It seems that these is some probability, some good chance that Poland will be :D :D

[Dragos]

Wel... I'm from Romania so I got a bit upseat seeing what some of you sayd about Transilvania...so here a history leason of what hapend:
In the past Transilvania, Moldavia and The Countrey of Romania, warr 3 independent countreys having in common They'r religion, language (with some diferences ofcourse) and borders.
Manny times when one of the 3 countreys warr attacked the other 2 jumped in to help.
Time past and outside of the borders of the 3 small independent countreys 3 large empires started to take shape.(The Tzarist Empire-wich is now Rusia-to the north-est, The Otoman Empire-now Turkey- to the south, and The Austro-Hungar Empire -now Hungury, Germany,Polland-to the west.
The 3 small countreys warr in the middle of the 3 empires.
Than The Otoman Empire invaded The Countrey of Romania. Moldavia with the help of The Tzarist Empire freed back the invaded countrey with the price of loosing some land to the Tzar.
Than The Austo-Hungar Empire started invading Transilvania. Here Moldavia again comed in to help defending theyr neigbor, but the war was lost in the end.
So again time past(about 100 years) and the conquered countrey Transilvania was populated by peoples from the Austro-Hungar empire, but the majority warr stil local transilvanians wich wanted freedom.
So an aliance was forged betwen The Romanian Countrey and Moldavia. Batles warr fought and wictory was in sight. Than a unexpected thing hapend.
The Otoman Empire(now allied with the Austro-Hungar Empire started theyr attacks on The Romanian Countrey, these pulling back the armyes of Moldavia and Romanian Countrey from the battles for freedom of Transilvania.
Time past again and an ideea started to forge, the ideea of the 3 countreys geting united under one single flag started to cross peples mind from all aover the 3 lands.
Batles War fought again and again, until finally Moldavia and The Romanian Countrey freed Transilvania and finnaly joined toghether as one State, one people. (The new land becomed Romania)
The only problem remaining was the peoples of the Austro-hungar empire wich mooved in doring the ocupatin of Transilvania. They started talks like these was theyr land since ever and that they'r persecuted in theyr homes. NONE of that i's true.

These is a realy short brief of what hapend
Much moore things hapend dooring the perionds of time: the turks had manny wars with the Romanians, the Moldavians had wars with the tzar and the turks, alliances warr forged and broken and so on... But that is what hapend loocking at the big picture.

Sorry for the long post. It's just that I see to many people talking about Transilvania and Hungury widowd knowing to much about it.

[Elewyn]

Nice post, but I can't agree with you.

History doesn't begin by struggle between these 3 empires, but far earlier.
Transylvania WAS part of Hungary (kingdom of Hungary) since its beggining, like Slovakia was. During midage Transylvania was colonizated by Germans and Hungarians, who established there 7 major towns/cities (in czech it's called "Sedmihradsko", Land of 7 castles), but, of course, they never were majority of population, but leading force, as it happened in Silesia and for short time in Bohemia also. This happened untill 15th century, when massive invasion of Ottoman Turks smashed forces of Hungarian and Bohemian king Luis in 1526 in Battle of Mohács. King died and Hungary, and Bohemia became lands of house of Habsburg, including Transdylvania.
But Transylvania was a bit more independent(local nobility, as if in whole Hungarian kingdom, was very strong) so it became half-independent state balancing between struggeling Habsburgs and Ottomans.

Final winners were Habsburgs, Austro-Hungarian empire and Transylvania was maybe colonizated again.

After WW1 it became pert of Romania, like Slovakia became part of Czechoslovakia, even if both were parts of Hungarian state from the time when modern states formed in centra Europe (9th century), but etnicaly were non-Hungarian in majority. But untill today there is large minority of Hungarians in both Transylvania and Slovakia.

[Vytis]

Ah, an excellent opportunity for another nationalistic flamewar :) Though I have to admit that I was more interested in bulgarians vs. croatians discussion since I've read plenty of romanians vs. hungarians in EU2 forums already:)

btw I don't think it's neccessarily bad. You can see the opposing views and it helps you to reach some sort of deeper understanding of that particular conflict.