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Finellach
28-05-2004, 20:39
I agree, but let's see the facts:

1. Byznatine and other sources say Simeon died few days after the defeat against Tomislav in Bosnia, devastated by that defeat he succumbed into his grief. Why would he die because of one defeat? Well let's just say that the sources are clear on one thing....almost no one got back from that campign. They were all slaughtered.

2. All official sources we have today say the same about the number of forces King Tomislav had at his disposal.
Now we can speculate and say it's not realistic, but the sources say that and we can't do nothng to change that. ;)

Finally don't forget that Tomislav fought with Bulgarians in his own country. Bosnia was very hard place to conquer because of the hills and mountains and stuff. One who knows to use the enviroment (like the old Croats certainly did) is nearly invincible. :)

Siena
28-05-2004, 22:02
damn, I wish this thread was separated into two - the one about units and beer :p and the one about Croatia or Bulgaria...

It gets ugly when posts interlap so much.

Also, Finelach, could you post a link, instead of copying the whole newsgroups?

Finellach
28-05-2004, 22:13
I would gladly, but there is no link. The whole posts I made is a copy from some other guy who collected these excerpts.

Krum The Terrible
28-05-2004, 23:25
Oh, I see a polemic!
You are proud of this victory and you should be you know to win against Bulgarian army in these days was a real chlange. But you can't change my opinion. I think that Simeon died becouse fo his fate. You'll says "But what about the facts.".I'll say these are Byzantine facts and this guys hate us since 681. We can talk with days but I can't change your opinion neither you mine so it
will be better to stop. Btw have you tried Bulgarian wines. They ROCKS :cheers:

Finellach
29-05-2004, 00:33
I doubt I can be proud of something that happened more than 1000 years ago....:rolleyes: :p