[en] Regions of medieval Europe

[Traveller]

Well, Elvain, I checked that forum, but I think the guys already lost interest in making maps. The only recent message was about a book of a Bulgarian historian, who wrote about the eventual borders of the 10 komitats. But even in that book there are no maps, just text. And I don't have the book either...

[Elvain]

then it's ok

I have drawn a map of Maghrib and Ifrikiya:
http://img234.imageshack.us/img234/5802/maghribjm0ba.png
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http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/6418/maghribjm7le.th.png (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maghribjm7le.png)
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map of Maghrib (http://img147.imageshack.us/my.php?image=maghribjm7le.png)

[Angryminer]

Absolutely astounding! :go:
Better go and put a (c) ... on the images, before someone thinks he can use that...

Angryminer

[Drago_bg]

Very good !!!!When will you be ready.

[Elvain]

thanks

partly I am finnished and I won't get further untill I come home from Israel in the end of august....

but you can see how the project preogessed here:
http://europauniversalis2.myfreeforum.org/forum5.php&sid=678ab084cf1dd1b2e8bb0a21ee0230b1

[Elvain]

little update. Still very imperfect, but now at least with Persia and big russian rivers... and with rivers generaly...
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/7616/romeresizeht3.gif

[Elvain]

update:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6454/auromeresizepf5.png

[Angryminer]

That's great. Unbelievable. :go:
Keep up the absolutly great work.

Angryminer

[Mircoslavux]

update:
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6454/auromeresizepf5.png

What means the brown link? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch:

[Xuca]

What means the brown link? :scratch: :scratch: :scratch:
Range of the map, probably.

[Mircoslavux]

Range of the map, probably.

for the game?...

[Angryminer]

We're not talking about any game.
We're talking about Elvain's map of the Regions of Medieval Europe.

Angryminer

[Mircoslavux]

We're not talking about any game.
We're talking about Elvain's map of the Regions of Medieval Europe.

Angryminer

a map for which purpose?:eek:

[Angryminer]

The purpose of the map is to show the regions of medieval europe.

Angryminer

[Elvain]

the dark red/brown line is a border of PTI for Arabia Universalis, a mod for EUII where I help with mapmaking

generaly it's the range but in some regions I will try to move it further (in Scandinavia if possible

and Angryminer is right. it's made to show all regions of Medieval Europe (and Middle East and North Africa) what may serve as base for soma game maps or not.

I'm getting to a hard stage of the map. Almost all parts of a map are to be somehow filled, now I have to make correctures what is the most boring part. That's one of reasons why f.i. France couldn't be considered as done coz I know there is so much to fix there :sick:

[Traveller]

Good work, Elvain! :go:
Btw, what kind of "correctures" do you mean? Like f.e. equalising the size/number of provinces in the different regions?

[Elvain]

Good work, Elvain! :go:
Btw, what kind of "correctures" do you mean? Like f.e. equalising the size/number of provinces in the different regions?
thanks.

No, I mean correctures when I get new sources for some area and see that there is a region/province that isn't in my map.
Or when 2 maps of one area have diferent borders of some region that my original source had I move the border according to new sources.

In regions with lack of sources my work is not so "academical" because there is mostly only one source so it's hard to verify it with some other

I don't equalize number of provinces in regions. I just put them all on the map. If a region existed it's supposed to be on the map no matter if Arabia will have 50 provinces and the same area of Europe 300.
For AU map I make this kind of corrections (put European provinces together to be equalized with number of Middle Eastern provinces and to fit to reality of early middle ages)
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btw, don't you have any new maps of medieval Bulgaria and the Balkans?

[Traveller]

Aha...
No, I haven't seen any new administrative maps of Bulgaria or the Balkans. But if you don't necessarily need it to be absolutely academical, I could look for locations of different fortresses and bigger cities and according to them the current ones could be further divided. But that would be only as a last resort, if you need it at all. Otherwise, I'd take another look for some more maps...

[Elvain]

It's just hard for me to believe that Bulgaria had so few and so large administrative provinces in the midle ages.

But if you don't necessarily need it to be absolutely academical, I could look for locations of different fortresses and bigger cities and according to them the current ones could be further divided. But that would be only as a last resort
If those you would find were ever a centres of some administration or autonomy, then it's ok.

[Traveller]

Oh, with autonomies it wouldn't be very hard - during the later ages there were so many separationists that even from them we'll find at least a couple more fortresses/provinces. But there were such big administrative regions - just look at the Byzantine provinces - thema Paristrion covered everything between the Danube and the Balkans, thema Bulgaria covered whole of Macedonia, Sofia and Bdin regions. However, there might have been smaller divisions of those, of course...