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Elvain
14-01-2006, 10:13
Here is my RomE map (Regions of medieval Europe)
http://img144.imageshack.us/img144/6454/auromeresizepf5.png
Mircoslavux
14-01-2006, 16:34
klobouk dolu...


great job..Elvain :cheers:
Elvain
14-01-2006, 17:16
thanks

if anybody has any comments, I'd like to improve the maps...

maybe I'll make a rough concept of the Balkans and hope that some comments moving my topic forward may emerge
Mircoslavux
14-01-2006, 17:24
thanks

if anybody has any comments, I'd like to improve the maps...

maybe I'll make a rough concept of the Balkans and hope that some comments moving my topic forward may emerge


I have bought very nice historical atlas of Europe (in German) with many maps, if you wani I can scan some picture of Europe and send them via email to you, but I have to know from which centuries or years and which states?

thanks
Elvain
14-01-2006, 17:28
I have bought very nice historical atlas of Europe (in German) with many maps, if you wani I can scan some picture of Europe and send them via email to you, but I have to know from which centuries or years and which states?

thanks
:go: that would be great...

the czech atlases are not very good and there is only very few of them and it's hard to get some better...

If it would be possible, I'd like to have all european countries documented as much as possible, but what I need the most is Balkans, Hungary, Russia(southern), Scandinavia and if there are some muslim regions too... it would be perfect :hello: :cheers: :go:
Saturn345
14-01-2006, 18:15
Very good Elvain!:go:
Doux
14-01-2006, 21:55
Impressive!

Do you actually plan to put these into Knights of Honour too?
hawk_knight
14-01-2006, 22:13
well done elvain :go: :cheers:
Elvain
15-01-2006, 10:59
Impressive!

Do you actually plan to put these into Knights of Honour too?
I don't know how could I...

sad I didn't make those maps BEFORE the game was done...
Elvain
15-01-2006, 14:08
could please anyone read names of the small refions inside Serbia (the grey-blue part of this map (http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bulgaria23rb.jpg) ) especialy those in Macedonia...

I hope the problem for me isn't cyrilic, but the resolution, so if anyone knows their names, I'd be glad to know.
Thanks
Traveller
15-01-2006, 20:07
Sorry, Elvain, but those inscriptions there aren't names of regions, but of their rulers. I don't think they'll be of any use to you.
Btw I see the map's from the BGNS site. You know they're a mainly nationalist movement, right?

P.S. Oh, I do happen to have a few Bulgarian maps from one electronic encyclopaedia. And if you don't have problems with the Cyrillic, maybe you'd like to see them (although I think there are no regions in them). But if I send them to you, you'd need a bigger mail-box, cuz there are 21 maps (from Antiquity (3, before the Slavs) and the middle ages (18, from the Slavs till the Ottomans arrivals)) and they are around 12MB. Or when I have time (I'm on work tomorrow, so probably Tuesday), I could possibly upload them in the net. And btw I'll also check or ask in one Bulgarian historical forum (boinaslava.net), although if you wish, you could also ask about it there - they have an international section (for English, Russian, German etc.) and most of them are more or less "professionals" (quite few "nationalists").
Elvain
15-01-2006, 20:51
I have no problem with cyrilic, it's ok. and I have over GB mailbox, so there's no problem...
and I don't need maps from anticity, middle ages are enough :wink:

thanks :go:

PS: it seems that Wikipedia uses lot of nationalistic sources (Slovakian nationalists as source for Greater Moravia, Bulgarian for maps of Bulgaria...)
Traveller
16-01-2006, 06:47
Ok, I've sent them in your Gmail account. And later I might upload and post them in the forum too...
Mircoslavux
17-01-2006, 10:21
:go: that would be great...

the czech atlases are not very good and there is only very few of them and it's hard to get some better...

If it would be possible, I'd like to have all european countries documented as much as possible, but what I need the most is Balkans, Hungary, Russia(southern), Scandinavia and if there are some muslim regions too... it would be perfect :hello: :cheers: :go:

Hi Elvain,
I will try to scan for you all the map (only Europe, I think the rest of World is not interesting for you) from 700-1800 if you want, but the atlas is more focused on west Europe than on East. I think, The Roman Holy Empire is more detailed than you have shown us.
The format of pages in atlas is beween A4 and A3 so I will cut only the maps, sometimes without text. I hope yuo will have no problem with German legends.
I then next week I will send it to you. I hope our scanner will be ok, sometimes is crazy.

nice day
M.
Traveller
17-01-2006, 11:58
Ok, here are the maps from that electronic encyclopaedia I wrote about (on Bulgarian):

01 - Thrace in the first milennium BC (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/01-Trakiaprezparvotohiladoletiepred.jpg)
02 - The Roman provinces of Thrace and Moesia Inferior (I-IIIc.) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/02-RimskiteprovinciiTrakiaiDolnaMoe.jpg)
03 - Diocese Thrace (IV-VIc.) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/03-DioceseTrakiaIV-VIvek.jpg)
04 - Slavs and Bulgars (IV-VIIc.) Establishment of the Bulgarian state - 681 (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/04-SlavianiiPrabulgariIV-VIIvekObra.jpg)
05 - Ethnic relations on the Balkan Peninsula and initial expansion of the Bulgarian state in the VII c. (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/05-EthnicheskiotnoshenianaBalkanski.jpg)
06 - The wars between Bulgaria and Byzantium in the VIII c. (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/06-VoinitemezhduBulgariaiVizantiapr.jpg)
07 - The wars of Khan Krum (813-827) (http://img17.imageshack.us/my.php?image=07voinitenakhankrum8138271sm.jpg)
08 - Territorial expansion of Bulgaria in the IX century (814-893) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/08-TeritorialnorazshirenienaBulgari.jpg)
09 - The wars of Tsar Simeon (893-927) (http://img4.imageshack.us/my.php?image=09voinitenatsarsimeon893927sma.jpg)
10 - The wars of Tsar Samuil (976-1014). Falling of Bulgaria under Byzantine rule (http://img5.imageshack.us/my.php?image=10voinitenatsarsamuil9761014pa.jpg)
11 - Forming and strengthening of the Bulgarian nationality (IX-X c.) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/11-FormiraneiutvarzhdavanenaBulgars.jpg)
12 - Culture of the Bulgarian state (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/12-KulturanaBulgarskatadarzhava.jpg)
13 - Battles of the Bulgarian people against the Byzantine rule (1018-1185) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/13-BorbitenaBulgarskiatnarodsreshtu.jpg)
14 - The rebellion of Assen and Petar (1185-1187) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/14-VastanietonaAseniPetar1185-1187.jpg)
15 - Bulgaria in time of the rule of Tsar Assen I and Tsar Petar II (1185-1197) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/15-BulgariapovremenaupravlenietonaT.jpg)
16 - The wars of Tsar Kaloian (1197-1207) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/16-VoinitenaTsarKaloian1197-1207.jpg)
17 - The wars of Tsar Ivan Assen II (1218-1241) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/17-VoinitenaTsarIvanAsenII1218-1241.jpg)
18 - The Bulgarian state from 1246 until the end of the XIII c. The rebellion of Ivailo and the battles against Byzantines and Tatars (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/18-Bulgarskatadarzhavaot1246dokraia.jpg)
19 - The Bulgarian state (1300-1331) (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/19-Bulgarskatadarzhava1300-1331.jpg)
20 - The wars of Tsar Ivan Aleksandar (1331-1371). Beginning of the Ottoman invasion (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/20-VoinitenaTsarIvanAleksandar1331-.jpg)
21 - Culture of the Second Bulgarian state (http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f266/NikeBG_History/Historical%20maps/Encyclopaedia%20History%20of%20Bulgaria/21-KulturanaVtorataBulgarskaDarzhav.jpg)

After that are 42 maps from the Ottoman times until WWII. I may post them in the History thread some time later...


Note: All the maps are taken from the electronic encyclopaedia "History of Bulgaria" of Publishing house "Sirma".
Elvain
17-01-2006, 12:33
Hi Elvain,
I will try to scan for you all the map (only Europe, I think the rest of World is not interesting for you) from 700-1800 if you want, but the atlas is more focused on west Europe than on East. I think, The Roman Holy Empire is more detailed than you have shown us.
The format of pages in atlas is beween A4 and A3 so I will cut only the maps, sometimes without text. I hope yuo will have no problem with German legends.
I then next week I will send it to you. I hope our scanner will be ok, sometimes is crazy.

nice day
M.
that's great :go:

I think up to 1500 it is enough (especially Germany is in later times too fragmented-even more than in 15th century)

and if there are some map of north Africa and the Middle east, it would be great to see them too... (if you have time) and though I don't understand german I am convinced I can understand map legends :smile:
Mircoslavux
17-01-2006, 14:53
that's great :go:

I think up to 1500 it is enough (especially Germany is in later times too fragmented-even more than in 15th century)

and if there are some map of north Africa and the Middle east, it would be great to see them too... (if you have time) and though I don't understand german I am convinced I can understand map legends :smile:


uptil where is Middle East - ??? you mean Izreal, Syria and so on, or Irak, Iran too? Sure I will send you something
:go:
Elvain
17-01-2006, 14:57
uptil where is Middle East - ??? you mean Izreal, Syria and so on, or Irak, Iran too? Sure I will send you something
:go:
Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Caucasian states (Armenia, Georgia Azerbayjan), western Iran, Iraq and Jordan
Mircoslavux
17-01-2006, 15:00
Syria, Palestine, Egypt, Caucasian states (Armenia, Georgia Azerbayjan), western Iran, Iraq and Jordan


which format do you want? or it does'nt matter? (jpeg, tiff, pdf,...?)
Elvain
17-01-2006, 15:05
no matter, but maybe jpeg is the best for me..

(PS: if there would be soe map of Arabian peninsula it wouldn't mind too :blush: sorry, I think I want everything
It's great you can help me and I am very thankful, so don't want to bother you..)