City names vs. province names

[Angryminer]

Greetings back.
His works are all extremely good. I expecially liked his HRE-maps ;) .

Angryminer

[timurlenk]

Greetings back.
His works are all extremely good. I expecially liked his HRE-maps ;) .

Angryminer


ahh, sigh, nostalgia. times when there still was hope for hre :)


to the painter
dont be that dětinský and come back :cheers: (hope i used the correct word)

[Finellach]

The map is perfect but it has almost 250 realms/provinces so I doubt this is how the map will like in KoH, but nevertheless it's perfect.

And yes, don't be childish, come back :p

[Elvain]

ahh, sigh, nostalgia. times when there still was hope for hre :)


to the painter
dont be that dětinský and come back :cheers: (hope i used the correct word)correct. Where an Austrian learned czech so well ? :)

[Henrik]

correct. Where an Austrian learned czech so well ? :)

Is it you Elewyn ermmm......i mean Elvain - if it is, then :hello: and :cheers:

[Hector]

lol worship me or die!

[timurlenk]

correct. Where an Austrian learned czech so well ? :)

i visited praha 4 times.





ok ok, :wacko: online dictionary...

[Elvain]

To be honest and proud of my work...
yes, this map of realms (http://elvain.album.cz/map-suggestions/ttt0865c933292bbeb9.jpg)is my work. Maybe for another game, maybe for future expansion of KoH, who knows. Maybe just to show you how I see it can pe perfect. But I know, 245 realms is probably too much for a game like KoH :)1:)

and the numbers mean:
BRITAIN:
1-Orkney-Inverness
2-Highlands-Aberdeen
3-Lothian-Edinburgh
4-York
5-Mercia-Lincoln
6-Anglia-London
7-Kent-Cantenbury
8-Wessex-Salisbury
9-Cornwall-Exeter
10-Wales-Caernarfon
11-Leinster-Dublin
12-Ulster-Derry
13-Connaught-Limerick
14-Munster-Cork

IBERIAN PENINSULA:
15-Galicia-Santiago de Compostela
16-Asturia-Oviedo
17-Castilia-Burgos
18-Leon
19-Porto
20-Lisbon
21-Extremadura-Badajoz
22-Andalicia-Cordoba
23-Granada
24-Murcia
25-Toledo
26-Valencia
27-Catalonia-Barcelona
28-Aragon-Zaragoza
29-Navarra-Pamplona

FRANCE:
30-Aquitaine-Bordeaux
31-Poitou-Poitiers
32-Anjou-Angers
33-Brittany(Bretagne)-Nantes
34-Normandy-Rouen
35-Francia(Ille-de-France)-Paris
36-Champagne-Reims
37-Burgundy-Dijon
38-Blois-Orleans
39-Auvergne-Clermont
40-Languedoc-Tolouse
41-Gothia-Carcassonne
42-Provence-Arles
43-Dauphiné-Lyon

ITALY:
44-Savoy-Torino
45-Liguria-Genoa
47-Pisa
48-Tuscany-Florence
49-Corse-Ajaccio
50-Sardiny-Cagliari
51-Sicily-Palermo
52-Rome
53-Naples
54-Calabria-Reggio
55-Apulia-Bari
56-Romagna-Ravenna
57-Venetia-Venice
58-Lombardia-Verona
59-Milan

GERMANIA:
60-Helvetia-Bern
61-Franche Comté-Besancon
62-Alsace-Strasburg
63-Lorraine-Metz
64-Luxemburg
65-Brabant-Brussel
66-Flandre-Brugge
67-Holland-Hague
68-Gelre-Arnhem
69-Friesland-Groningen
70-Bremen
71-Braunschweig
72-Mecklenburg-Lübeck
73-Brandenburg
74-Saxony-Magdeburg
75-Meissen
76-Thuringia-Erfurt
77-Nassau
78-Rheinland-Köln(Cologne)
79-Palatinat-Mainz(Mayence)
80-Franconia-Frankfurt
81-Swabia-Ulm
82-Bavaria-Nürnberg
83-Tyrolia-Innsbruck
84-Carinthia-St.Veit
85-Krain(Carniola)-Kranj
86-Styria-Graz
87-Austria-Wien

POLAND AND BOHEMIA:
88-Moravia-Olomouc
89-Bohemia-Prague
90-Lusatia-Görlitz
91-Silesia-Wroclaw
92-Polonia-Gniezdno
93-Pomerania-Gdansk
94-Kujawia-Torun
95-Mazovia-Warsaw
96-Sandomierz-Sandomierz(or Lublin)
97-Krakow

HUNGARY AND WESTERN BALKANS
98-Upper Hungary-Pressburg(Bratislava/Poszony)
99-"Carpathia"-Kosice/Kassa
100-Transylvania-Klausenburg(Cluj/Kolozsvár)
101-Sirmium
102-Kalocsa
103-Alföld-Buda or Esztergom
104-Pannonia-Pécs
105-Slavonia-Djakovo
106-Croatia-Zagreb(Gradec)
107-Bosnia-Sarajevo(Vrboshna)
108-Dalmatia-Zadar (Zara)
109-Zeta-Kotor (Cattaro)
110-Rashka-Beograd (Belgrade)

SOUTHERN BALKANS:
111-Macedonia-Ochrid
112-Drac
113-Epiros-Arta
114-Achaia-Athens
115-Crete-Iraklis
116-Thessalia-Larissa
117-Solun-Thesaloniki
118-Constantinople
119-Thrace-Adrianopilis
120-Vidin(Bdin)
121-Moesia
122-Bulgaria-Turnovo
123-Severin
124-Wallachia-Bucharest
125-Dobrudzha-Karvuna

SOUTHWEST RUSSIA:
126-Budzak-Odessa
127-Moldova-Suceava
128-Podole-Kamenec Podolskij
129-Yedisan(Ukraine)
130-Kiev
131-Zhytomir
132-Galicia-Galicz
133-Volyn-Luzk
134-Polesia-
135-Turov-Pinsk
136-Podlasia-Grodno

BALTIC REGION(Baltic Lands and Scandinavia):
137-Lithuania-Vilnius
138-Prussia-Marienburg
139-Kaunas
140-Samogitia-Medvegalis
141-Kurland-
142-Livonia-Riga
143-Estonia-Talinn
144-Jutland-Jelling
145-Sealand-Odense
146-Skaane-Lund
147-Ost Götaland-Kalmar
148-Svealand-Uppsala
149-West Götaland-Skara
150-Oslo
151-Stavanger
152-Bergen
153-Trondheim
154-Jämtland-Östersund
155-Norrland
156-Gotland-Visby
157-Finland-Turku
158-Karelia-Viborg

NORTHERN RUSSIA:
159-Kirilov
160-Vologda
161-Galich
162-Viatka
163-Kazan
164-Riazan
165-Murom
166-Niznij Novgorod
167-Kostroma
167/46-Yaroslavl
168-Novgorod
169-Ingria-Narva
170-Pskov
171-Polotsk
172-Smolensk
173-Tver
174-Rostov
175-Dimitrov
176-Suzdal
177-Vladimir
178-Tula
179-Moscow
180-Kaluga

SOUTH RUSSIAN PLAINS:
181-Chernigov
182-Perjeslawl
183-Zaporoze
184-Crimea-Cherson
185-Azov
186-Donetsk
187-Novgorod-Severskij
188-Voronezh
189-Sarai
190-Astrakhan
191-Caspia
192-Kuban-Altariga
193-Cercassia

ASIA:
194-Georgia-Tbilisi
195-Armenia-Ani
196-Azerbaijan-Baku
197-Persia-Tabriz
198-Kurdistan-Amida
199-Capadoccia-Malatya
200-Trebzon
201-Paflagonia-Sinop
202-Bythynia-Nicea
203-Smyrna
204-Attaleia
205-Konya-Ikonion
206-Anatolia-Ankara
207-Cilicia-Tarsus
208-Cyprus-Leukosia
209-Antioch-Antiocheia
210-Edessa
211-Mosul
212-Mesopotamia-Samara
213-Iraq-Baghdad
214-East Arabia
215-West Arabia-Mecca
216-Jordan-Tebuk
217-
218-Aleppo
219-Lebanon-Tripolis
220-Damascus
221-Palestine-Jerusalem

AFRICA:
222-Sinai
223-Cairo
224-Upper Egypt
225-Alexandria
226-Siva
227-Barka-Cyrene
228-East Tripolitana
229-Tripoli
230-Jerba
231-East Sahara-Wargla
232-Touggourt
233-Kairouan
234-Tunis
235-
236-Algiers
237-Tahert
238-Oran
239-Tlemcen
240-West Sahara-Figuig
241-Sus
242-Sijilmassa
243-Morocco-Marakech
244-Fes
245-Tanger

PS: missing places will be filled as soon as I will get back to my books (I miss my books now ;( )

PPS: I was surprised by the way it was correctly written. It is not usual with any czech words :)

[Jarlabanke]

144-Jutland-Jelling
149-West Götaland-Skara
156-Gotland-Visby
IMO

[Elvain]

144-Jutland-Jelling
149-West Götaland-Skara
156-Gotland-Visby
IMO:go: that's it. I couldn't remember Visby, how is it possible? :silly: :D
I would rather leave Jutland to Danes, but I am sure I can believe you in this case :)
btw, don't you have any idea of that "central Scandinavian" realm? I knew it (I have it in some map which is now somewhere in my new place under hills of books :D)

[Jarlabanke]

What exactly do you mean by center?

[Elvain]

:scratch:
probably "midland" part would be better than "central". I mean realm 154, the area without any coast.

[Jarlabanke]

IN Sweden, Norway or Denmark? I'm lacking a map of the realms in the game

[Elvain]

this map's (http://elvain.album.cz/map-suggestions/ttt0865c933292bbeb9.jpg) realm 154 is in Sweden or between Sweden and Norway and AFAIRemember it begins with "J"... but it definitely won't be in the game (1st release :))

and honestly, I really would like to see the map with all realms of KoH, shown by the devs too...

[Jarlabanke]

Jämtland, more or less. Somehow transferred from Swedish rule to norwegian somewhere in the early middleages, taken back during the renaissance, by Gustav II Adolf if I remember it correctly.

[Elvain]

Jämtland, more or less. Somehow transferred from Swedish rule to norwegian somewhere in the early middleages, taken back during the renaissance, by Gustav II Adolf if I remember it correctly.
wise man :go: my memory really ****s, but now I can see I don't need it when you're here :cheers:
Don't you know any town down there? :rolleyes:

[Jarlabanke]

Östersund is the largest town and there's a runestone there, so people have probaby been around there for some time.

For a complex map: check out Crusader kings.

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/strategy/crusaderkings/screens.html?page=9

[Kyivan Power]

Kyiv or ( Kiev ) is the capital of Ukraine, not Jedisan of Ukraine. Dont know where u got that from Elvain. Kyiv was the capital of the Kyivska Rus ( Kievan Rus Empire ) and afterwors Kyivska Rus in about 1500 become to be known as Ukraine. Since the day Kyiv was founded it has been the capital of the Ukrainian Culture. Someone also Mentioned that Lithuaina had Kiev, they did occupy it, but were driven from it by the Powerfull Kozaks ( Cossacks ) Hetman, Bohgdan Khmelnytsky.

[Elvain]

Kyiv or ( Kiev ) is the capital of Ukraine, not Jedisan of Ukraine. Dont know where u got that from Elvain. Kyiv was the capital of the Kyivska Rus ( Kievan Rus Empire ) and afterwors Kyivska Rus in about 1500 become to be known as Ukraine. Since the day Kyiv was founded it has been the capital of the Ukrainian Culture. Someone also Mentioned that Lithuaina had Kiev, they did occupy it, but were driven from it by the Powerfull Kozaks ( Cossacks ) Hetman, Bohgdan Khmelnytsky.Of course. I know what Kiev was and is and I'm not saying Jedisan or anything else is capital of Ukraine. it is written in the way it is: "Jedisan(Ukraine)" just because of these reasons:
1. look at the map. You will probably agree with location of Kiev. You wil probably agree that provinces 129-Jedisan and 130-Kiev are 2 instead of 1 sooo large. But there is problem with history of area 129. It was just area where every nomadic invadors stayed for a while during middle ages, there was no constant agricultural settlement and due to this that area had no name in medieval times (correct me if I am wrong and send me some link or anything else what will tell me how it was called in middle ages+give me it's capital), except Divokoe polie or some kind of this.
2. the name Jedisan is taken from map about 1500 about Turkish invasion to this area, I don't know the origin of word Jedisan, but it sounds a bit Turkish to me. But still it's the best and oldest name of this region I know. If you know some better, send it to me, I would be very pleased. Ukraine is in brackets just because I am not sure about correctness of Jedisan.

So if you have any better idea (merging 129 and 130 into one province is not better soluion IMO), show me. Please, help me if you can. There probably is no other area in Europe so doubtfull to me. In any other regions I was forced to chose one of the names instad of seeking if there is ANY name.

[Kyivan Power]

I guess i miss understood then...cuz that would be in****ing... but have u thought about Kherson, of the Pechenegs ?

Sry for freaking out earlyer lol